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To have told this small child not to be rude?

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NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 10/05/2018 09:16

Walking back from school run and a l3/4 year old (?) was behind me on their scooter. I was going to move aside but before I did the child said "get out of my way". At this point his mother was way ahead of him so I didn't say anything. He stopped to look at something with his Mum and a younger child. I went past again and he once again was behind me but his Mum was next to him. Again he said to get out of his way in an annoyed tone and as his Mum said nothing such as sorry about that or told him to ask politely I shouted after him not to be so rude. Was I wrong for doing that?

Naturally I'm prepared to get slated as it's AiBU.

I don't know the Mum or child in question. I just thought even with a young child that's pretty rude.

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RoseWhiteTips · 10/05/2018 10:38

The “takes a village” line is laughable, incidentally. It is the responsibility of the PARENTS to teach their children basic manners.

WorraLiberty · 10/05/2018 10:42

Well like I said claraschu, he knows now.

And hopefully the next time he tells someone to get out of the way, they'll also tell him not to be rude.

Aeroflotgirl · 10/05/2018 10:45

He was rude, and his mother did nothing, it takes a village and all that. You were very right.

Likejellytots88 · 10/05/2018 10:50

Perfectly acceptable imo, I did the same to two young boys the other day whilst out at the pub for some lunch and to let DS play on the play area. Two older boys were running around with a toy so naturally DS starts running around after them wanting to play - at first I thought it was cute they were letting him chase them around but then he ran after them round a corner so I went to get him. They were with there parents and teasing my DS pretending to give him the toy then snatching it away. I said nothing at first to them just told my DS to leave them alone as I assumed they had sat down to eat. Then DS was sat with me and the boys came over and did the same thing and I politely told them they were being rude, all my DS wanted to do was play with them but they were teasing and that's unkind so leave my little boy alone and told my DS to ignore them as they are being mean.

They clearly told their parents as I got dirty looks when we walked past to leave (because of these boys continuing to be mean after I'd told them off and my DS got upset and kicked one of them - i high fived him for that when we got home) so as we walked past and DS saw them again I, quite loudly, told him to ignore the mean children. That fact the parents didn't stop me to ask why I said that just proved to me that they obviously accept that behaviour and wouldn't have done anything to stop it. Kids like that need telling, no need to be horrible for no reason especially to a complete stranger!

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 10/05/2018 10:53

Not at all. The mum can decide not to impose manners on her child, but she doesn't get to control how the rest of the world reacts to his rudeness.

tillytrotter1 · 10/05/2018 10:55

When our small granddaughter had been pushed out of a queue at a play area a few times my husband went over and told the older offenders, very forcefully, to stop bullying her. Their breeders were incensed, put down their phones and coffees, they didn't speak in such a negative way to their children apparently. My husband told them that perhaps they should then they wouldn't be so obnoxious.

MrsDilber · 10/05/2018 10:55

Yanbu. He was rude.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 10/05/2018 10:56

I've had many discussions with ds (3) about using "Out of my way". Our issue is his speech. He really struggles with "p"s and whilst he will say "please can I get past" at home or around people he's comfortable with, outside that he defaults to what he knows will be understood.

In every other way he's a really polite child. Says thank you without any prompting, always says bye to people etc but because of his speech, in some cases he comes across as a little rude. We tell him off, we provide alternative phases, we try and do exercises at home to help with the sounds he struggles with, we're looking into private speech therapy as he doesn't meet the criteria for the NHS according to the Health Visitor but given I'm having a baby in a month and my df has just died, haven't managed to organise anything yet.

Obviously ds isn't the child referred to by the OP but I wish it was as easy as just telling him off.

kikashi · 10/05/2018 10:57

Why am I not surprised it was a boy child? My DH is very tall and big and big and being bashed by scooters and the like never happens to him. My DD once remonstrated with a boy who had crashed into my heel, tore it (it was summer) and knocked me causing me to stumble with the pushchair. She said "how dare you hurt my mum like that!" "You should be ashamed of yourself!".

I knew the boy's mother a bit and later she phoned me (I thought to apologise. Sheed explain that her son had an alpha male personality she wanted to encourage so he would be successful in life and that my DD had upset him this morning and undermined him and she demanded it not happen again! (I won't repeat what I told her).

I do wonder OP if this child's lordling little prince demand to "get out of way" is an attitude encouraged at home for their "little man" and if he would be so quick to demand a big bloke to shift!

Aeroflotgirl · 10/05/2018 11:02

Oh god Kikashi that is disgusting, the mum should be ashamed of herself raising a child with little manners, manners maketh the man.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 10/05/2018 11:03

Why does he spend so much time ordering people out of his way, Dinosaur? It's unusual for a three year old to barge their way along the street trying to get past everyone in front??
Maybe you should help him out with that.

Clawdy · 10/05/2018 11:08

The little boy next door to us always calls out "Beep beep!" if he's on his scooter, and behind people. I like that, and it usually works!

Neolara · 10/05/2018 11:08

I don't think there is anything wrong with letting the child know he was being rude, but I'm not sure shouting was the best way to communicate.

I once witnessed a completely wonderful and very experienced teacher talk to a boy who had casually said something in a very rude manner She said to him very calmly and kindly something like "I think you probably don't realise, but when you spoke to me like that, you sounded really rude. Did you know that?" The boy looked astounded, apologised immediately and said he hadn't realised.

Bramble71 · 10/05/2018 11:10

I shout after people who barge me out of the way or tut at me for walking very slowly (I'm disabled) and I hope they feel ashamed of themselves. My walking aid is hard to miss! You aren't being unreasonable at all. I hope the kid, and his mother, learned a lesson in manners.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 10/05/2018 11:13

YANBU, and I wouldn't have moved either until I got a polite request.

strawberrypenguin · 10/05/2018 11:15

kikashi girls are just as capable of being rude as boys are. Nice to see the typical MN boy hate in play again though. I suppose your little princess is perfect

Mousefunky · 10/05/2018 11:18

YANBU. I hate scooters. I’d have been mortified if one of my DC spoke to someone like this.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 10/05/2018 11:20

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar It's 99% of the time at soft play because of the lay out of the cafe area. There are usually clumps of people standing around blocking the path between tables when he's trying to get back to have a drink or is hungry. Obviously it's not something I'm happy with hence the pushing for more appropriate phasing and suggesting he tries to find a better route.

On the street he always holds my hand because most of our walk to his preschool is along a road with a speed limit of 60 miles an hour unless he's on his bike and even then he hasn't run anyone over yet.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 10/05/2018 11:20

@Dinosauratemydaffodils I do understand. I'd even not have minded if he had said move then thank you afterwards but he just scooted off, no acknowledgment at all.

Sorry you're having a tough time though.

@Likejellytots88 the boys were being pretty mean but I'd not have high fives my child for showing meanness back it just tells your child they have a right to punish another child, which may land them in trouble.

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Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 10/05/2018 11:25

Ah, ok, Dinosaur, I was imagining something quite different. Sorry.

sockunicorn · 10/05/2018 11:53

@notanothernoughtiestune YANBU. I would have said something. Perhaps more along the line of "sorry can you repeat that?" to point out and make sure his DM heard. However you were right to say something.

Theres a little shithead boy on my school run who is about 9 and travels alone to school. He is always practically up my arse on his bike and never says anything! A few times Ive moved and then shouted "you're welcome" after him but now I just dont even move and tend to go a bit slower. Little fucker boy can use his words if he wants me to move. Angry

rodstewartsmerkin · 10/05/2018 11:58

If my son dared to speak to a stranger (or anyone) like that he have been off the scooter and marched home.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 10/05/2018 12:01

@sockunicorn I hate the passive aggressiveness of someone being right on your heel.

When I was 15 we went to Rome and when queueing I had a buggy right behind me. A little kid had a mini Umbrella. Child must've been 2ish, possibly 3? Kept poking me with it! The Mum was speaking in fluent Italian to which I knew none so just had to glare back and hope she took the hint. She didn't.

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ThisIsTheFirstStep · 10/05/2018 13:04

I'd say if a grown up pushed into my child her commenting on it loudly is a direct consequence of that woman being so rude. Any embarrassment or looks she gets are well deserved

But it’s not considered rude here to push. Just normal. I hate it but that’s life in most Asian countries.

Motherofallbeasts · 10/05/2018 13:19

Thanks for asking - she chipped her elbow and to have it manipulated and set under sedation so it was all a bit shit, but she's recovered now. It was a passing bin man who got her out of the hedge and home and called me to come over. I have actually shouted at children on scooters on the pavement to slow down and watch out - it's a complete menace and they shouldn't be allowed.

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