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6 and 7 year olds being kep in at lunch time for forgetting homework

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DaanSaaf · 08/05/2018 20:55

Year 2 ds just told me they have to stay in at lunch time and do extra work if they haven't brought their homework in.

Aibu to think that's a bit harsh at their age?

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CalF123 · 10/05/2018 10:24

@steppemum

Play is not as important as studying for a 7 year old. Maybe for a reception child, but certainly not in year 3/4.

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 10/05/2018 10:25

lins If you want kids to do their homework, why not put on a homework club then? So that those from disadvantaged backgrounds can have a chance too.

Something like that is far less stigmatising than always being the bad kid.

cal I’d say it’s rather the opposite. The kids from poor backgrounds never have a chance because most teachers just focus on the ‘good’ middle class kids. They just get written off at age 5.

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/05/2018 10:25

CalF123 some of our DC are not from poor backgrounds.
Some of our dc are dyslexic, have ADD and ADHD but with the attitude of people on here no wonder they fall through the gaps.

Linzeyhun I am glad to hear it.
You wouldn't say it is the curriculum and we have to adhere to the curriculum so all homework must be done over and over at me?

DD was finally diagnosed with dyslexia, she has a problem with processing skills and ADD in year 9.

Ds is going to college in September and they are picking up the failings of various schools and have a long list of new pupils who have never been diagnosed dyslexic etc after speaking to the pupils and parents on the introduction evening

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 10/05/2018 10:26

cal

according to who is play not important?

I’d say play is the most important part of EVERYONE’S lives.

CalF123 · 10/05/2018 10:29

Play is important, and children have ample opportunity outside school to do so. In school, though, and for say 45 mins after for a 7 year old, the focus should be almost exclusively on studying at that age.

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 10/05/2018 10:33

cal not all children have access to play outside of school.

Have you ever thought of moving over here to Korea? They’d love your style. Shame the kids are all stressed, depressed and have poor social skills though.

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/05/2018 10:35

Play is not as important as studying for a 7 year old. Maybe for a reception child, but certainly not in year 3/4

You have no idea about DC.

Would love to see what would happen if you decided playtime was banned and every DC had to sit at their desk all day.

steppemum · 10/05/2018 10:38

Play is not as important as studying for a 7 year old. Maybe for a reception child, but certainly not in year 3/4.

this child is year 2. The research about physical activity with relation to large and fine motor skills applies to all children in KS1.

But regardless of that, play is an ESSENTIAL part of children's growth and development all through primary school.
It is an absolute fallacy to pit play against study.
Good play is the beginning of, and fore runner to, good understanding and study.

And my point about physical health and activity still stands

CalF123 · 10/05/2018 10:47

I agree that they complement each other. But if some on here had their way, DC would be running around the playground playing hide and seek all day avery day. That's not a viable education system.

swg1 · 10/05/2018 10:50

My 4 year old has a bedtime of 7, because he's shattered and teary if he stays up longer. Which means most often we're going up to sort PJs/teeth/stories by 6:30/6:40. I work, so most often pick him up at 4 if not slightly later.

Add in some food, and play and the evening is gone. Of course the play is frequently "educational" let's do this sticker book and sound out the words above the stickers, let's pick daisies and then count them, let's play a board game that needs maths skills but no, it's not always the worksheets sent home from school. And sometimes instead of reading what's in his book bag we work through a Dr Seuss because it's more interesting and makes us laugh.

I'm not overly worried about this setting up terrible habits for when he's 11 because if my 11 year old is still getting ready for bed for 7 I'll be really surprised. Small children have a higher proportion of their day asleep, I'm not sure why this is hard to understand.

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/05/2018 10:50

Play is important, and children have ample opportunity outside school to do so

When they have homework and after school activities. Parents who work so haven't time during the week to go and see their friends. Also at that age not everyone lives on a street with other children. You have to have your parents take you to a play date. So no there aren't opportunities after school

steppemum · 10/05/2018 10:56

Cal, sorry but eveyr single bit of research into child developement doesn't agree with you.

At age 7, my 7 year old came home from school and kicked a football outside for an hour.
he was full of buidl up physical tension fomr sitting and working all day, and that was with playtime and lunchtime.
He had very little homework, and we never did extra studying.

He is now at a superselective grammar school, and doing very well, has a good study ethic and works hard.

At 7, he was NOT ready to sit and work for so long. And certainly not for 45 minutes outside of school.

And i am talking about physical play, physical activity, out of your seat and moving. Not many kids do that outside of school anywhere near enough

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/05/2018 10:57

But if some on here had their way, DC would be running around the playground playing hide and seek all day avery day

And what is wrong with that. It teaches them social skills and from DDS experience she has got more jobs because of her social skills than any qualifications she might or might not have. Her jobs are primarily working with the public and children.

CalF123 · 10/05/2018 10:59

If kids spent less time on Xboxes and IPads, they'd have plenty of time to be active and do homework.

steppemum · 10/05/2018 11:10

If kids spent less time on Xboxes and IPads, they'd have plenty of time to be active and do homework.

yup, all those researches into what is best for children, have no idea do they?

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/05/2018 11:15

Mine didn't have an iPad or Xbox.

For those extolling academia. DD went to a school that only had academic study for half the week.

The pupils that wanted to had no problems with getting into uni so you do wonder what a normal school is teaching them the other half of the week. Also they had very little homework

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 10/05/2018 11:19

And we wonder why kids aren’t getting enough activity...

Some shocking attitudes on here regarding punishment. Way to encourage a love of learning.

CalF123 · 10/05/2018 11:51

Some people on here make it sound like teachers derive pleasure from punishing dc. Punishment is not about that, it's about correcting behaviour.

If a child knows they're going to lose all their break time for a week if they don't do homework(which is what I think should happen), they're more likely to do their homework.

steppemum · 10/05/2018 11:57

Cal - at aged 7, doing homework is about the parents providing the time and the space, not about the child. The parents don't get punished though do they?

CalF123 · 10/05/2018 12:08

Parental engagement is absolutely one of the largest factors in a child's educational outcomes, so I wouldn't be averse to bringing in some form of sanctions for parents who refuse to engage in the education system and support their child. They are literally stealing their children's futures.

Idontdowindows · 10/05/2018 12:23

Cal, research shows homework has no benefits to the child at that age.

So it's makework which leads to children being punished for something that doesn't even benefit their education.

Believeitornot · 10/05/2018 12:27

@Linzeyhun

I feel sorry for your year 2 children.

Awful.

Homework at primary serves a different purpose to secondary so why conflate the two.

Believeitornot · 10/05/2018 12:28

@CalF123 I’m smart enough to be able to engage in my children’s learning without resorting to petty punishment and forcing them to do homework.

Linzeyhun · 10/05/2018 12:34

@Believeitornot

Would you have the same opinion about misbehaviour?
Children have to follow classroom rules.
The reason some kids are the way they are is because parents kick up a fuss.

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/05/2018 13:13

Linzeyhun stop comparing completely different things.

Secondary children are twice the age of primary and disruptive children against those that don't do homework. If we are talking about preparing for the future why not have school finish at 5 and no working at home

We could also have the children in schools that are 1 hour away so it prepares them for commuting