6 and 7 year olds being kep in at lunch time for forgetting homework

[DaanSaaf]

Year 2 ds just told me they have to stay in at lunch time and do extra work if they haven't brought their homework in.

Aibu to think that's a bit harsh at their age?

www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2014/08/31/the-surprising-truth-about-discipline-in-schools/amp/
Yep, no evidenced based teaching , no support for your ineffective, resentment provoking teaching practices

She should have told you
Yeah kids are never picked to be buffer zones because they are known to speak up. They are picked precisely because they keep quiet.

And kids don't speak up about thongs for all sorts of reasons they don't wanna get onto trouble or get others into trouble. They fear the teachers or they fear the parents finding out ....

Or they say and bugger all gets done

"Tell me when he does it again "
"Stay away from her"
"I will keep an eye out..."

All classic reponses. All useless. Why bother

My DC school doesn't do homework at all. They encourage children to read at home each night but there is no signing off books or recourse if they don't. Homework should be for secondary school in my opinion.

@Giles

I was just offering an answer to some of the reasons you suggested she may not have done work.

She did the work during lunch with no problem and was cooperative for the rest of the day.

Except now you could well have killed any chance she ever tells you anything...

@Giles

Seeing as the girl sat next to her completed her work I doubt she was distracted
And even if the examples you provide eg being kicked,needing the loo are true

The work still needs doing,doesn't it?

@Linzeyhun

You’re conflating homework and work to be done in class time.

If my child had to be kept in at playtime because they hadn’t done their work, I’d wonder why the teacher couldn’t manage to get a 6 year old to do as they were told.

But surely it can be done in a way that's not a punishment.

And if they miss break or lunch through things that might not even be their fault then where's left to go when they or someone else does something really bad?

She's going to be worries now every time she can't do something that she's going to miss her breaks.

Of course they get it done in break when the class is empty and the teachers there to speak too.

Little harder when you spend half the lesson with your hand up being ignored and the other kids are distracting you.

@Pengggwn

Just google whether homework at primary improves performance. It doesn’t. So why bother?

I much much prefer when our teacher gives parents areas to explore with children. Eg thinking about measuring, specific nature topics etc etc. That gives a child a thirst for learning and makes them want to engage.

Better that than a crappy worksheet which is difficult to follow unless you know what teaching methods there are. Or worse, having the child do online stuff which just isn’t as good.

@Believeitornot

I was explaining the Giles about a girl I kept in at lunch to do work.

I wasn't trying to confuse homework and classwork

I very rarely do keep children in as they do both work and homework. I however will keep them in if needed.

I was reading this which was interesting as said that homework is only useful if a child has understood the concept already in class or is preparing for a test.

That’s exactly my problem with homework - 9 times out of 10, the child hasn’t yet got the concept or the parent doesn’t know so cannot explain if any questions come up. Especially at 6!
And 6 years olds shouldn’t be subject to tests.

You’ve been talking over and over about keeping a child in for not doing homework. That’s what this thread is about.

If they didn’t do class work and you kept them in at the age of 6, I would question why that was.

@Beliveitornot

I keep them in for both, but like i said it is rare

The fact that you do is disappointing. 6 year old school being kept in for homework

I have nothing more to say!

With dd because by the time she got to aged 8 she was able to write I used to do her homework. I could copy her scrawl. I know loads of parents who did this.

Dd was in eca's all evening. They have been more useful than any homework she might or might not have done.

Unfortunately because ds couldn't read or write I couldn't fudge his homework as when he was in school he hadn't a clue what was going on as the teacher would write the subject she was discussing on the board and he was left trying to guess at what it was by people's responses

So did ds have a concept of the subject matter.

No because no one told him what the subject was in the first place

Reading this thread makes me so very glad that my children are not at school any more. The cold attitude of some on this thread is quite honestly shocking. We are talking about young children of 6 or 7 years of age, not teenagers. Poor, poor children.

I'm not surprised home education is on the increase.

@ listen

You cannot please everyone. There will always be someone who isn't pleased with how teacher deals with things in the classroom.

@Oliver

I don't know why you keep mentioning children who struggle when I said I wouldn't keep them in.

@Linzeyhun

I know you can't please everyone, but it is your whole attitude (on here) towards the children you are teaching that is shocking.

You wrote "The children with entitled parents who moan I relish punishing." That is unprofessional, unkind and abhorrent. That sentence alone shows that you should not be teaching. You should be ashamed. You cannot see the harm you are doing to a) the children, and b) your profession.

You wrote "The children with entitled parents who moan I relish punishing." That is unprofessional, unkind and abhorrent

^this.

The idea that once you've taken away a break there's no further punishments available is ludicrous. You can remove all breaks and lunches for a set period or give after school detentions, for example. A system that works quite well at the DC's school is where bad kids have to earn all privileges, including breaks and lunches. If they don't behave, they get neither and are rightly kept in the classroom all day, every day.

@CalF123

Yes cos that’s not over the top for a 6 year old

No what's ludicrous is punishing a chikd for things that are most often out of their control. And in most cases are the fault of the parents or the very teachers that are handing out the punishments.

Lack of control in the classroom. Work thats not differentiated well. Kids sat next to kids who are disruptive so they can't get their work done. No one noticing the kid has no idea what they are doing or being too approachable to ask .

If my kid is ever a shit in school teachers have my permission to punish as they see fit but if my kid can't actually so the work then that's on you. Not me . Not my kid.
The only times my kids have t done the work is when they have been actively blocked from doing it or unsupported in class and have no idea what they are supposed to be doing.

Too unapproachable

@Giles

That is your child though, not all children.

Perfectly right CalF.

I and the staff at my school have come to the conclusion that she's not a teacher. She can't be.