To hope he's bluffing

[worriedaboutt]

I've been losing sleep over this so I'll jump right in and ask: is it possible for an employee at the council to snoop at someone's details (ie, address, workplace, benefits claimed, NI number, salary ect)? I know it's not ethical and probably breaks codes of conduct, but is it possible?
My ex who I finally disentangled myself from 7 years ago has gleefully messaged me that his brother's job has allowed him access to all my personal details and that he will 'have fun fucking my life up'. I don't want to give this person headspace, but I don't like the idea that he could turn up where I live, or meddle in my life. I feel sick.

They are bullies who expect you just to take their shit. Apparently the brother is as thick as shit - whether he accessed them or not, abuse of position in public service is a MASSIVE deal. Stupid, stupid prat.

I really don't know what to do now.

Yes, you do. You report this to the council and the police. I don't think you should have contacted his brother though, but it's too late now.

So, first thing on Tuesday morning, ring the council. You can contact the police today.

OP, you’ve been given good advice here. Report it to the police, report to the council and stop engaging with either of these idiots.

Oh good, he's just confirmed it, nice one. Screenshots and police :)

Also, a breach of Data protection can result in a massive fucking fine, so his idiot brother has really shot himself in the foot.

Ah, so he's replied and shown what a thick dickhead he is. Yep, screenshot that message too.

I would also get a protection order against both of them, since they so much about you and threatening you too.

Thank you everyone, I will.
I just didn't want to be dealing with all this. I wanted to brush off the ex's message as nothing and carry on living my life in peace but now I'm going to have to have someone lose their job, involve outside agencies and live my life in fear with three children to think about.
He's already heard from his brother as I've had messages saying he's hopes I die, drop dead, fall off a cliff (he never threatens me but says he wishes I'd have an accident or kill myself, he words it so the police wouldn't be interested).

Wow, how thick is your BIL!!!

Yes, police and council now with all the messages. Your message is perfectly polite, so you are fine.

Looks like your fraudster BIL is about to lose his job.

Ask the police about a restraining order on your ex - they should sort BIL out too for his threat.

Well, in a way ot’s good you messaged him cause bow he compleetely inplicated himself. What a pair of thickos

I know it mist be stressful OP but at least you can have a piece of mind that you are not dealing with a oair of crime masterminds

Definitely police and council. I think you shown good will by nessaging the brother (in the eyes of police) as you wanted to warn him of his brother sabotaging his job but now hey can see he’s on it too.

Can’t get iver the fact how stupid they are though!

APologies for typos!

Yes and definitely apply for a protection order. Twats.

OP, playing the long game can be scary. But once the stupid twatsack realises you wont take his shit no more, he'll move on.

It must be awful living a life being so bitter and twisted, but he doesnt deserve pity and neither does his idiot brother.

You wont be getting the brother sacked, he will get himself sacked and its obvious he still hasnt learnt his lesson from last time.

Oh and as soon as the opportunity arises, move house!

OK. Message to brother backfired then. Not reasonable people. Yep, screenshot and report to council and police.

Any more shit from fallout you keep reporting to police. Don't engage with them at all.

It may not be a disaster that you alert brother. It may put him off.
You could have just ignored it, what are they going to do with your data? I hope they don't have any nasty accident either!

Call ncdv now. In most cases that can get a non molestation order served within 24 hours. Any contact after that gets him locked up. You don't have to put up with this shit.

www.ncdv.org.uk/

Given the response from the brother, screen shot everything and go to his employers and the police.

What an extraordinary family of dribbling cretins you seem to have been enmeshed in: I can only assume your ex was fit, or something, because he’s as stupid as shit. Well done for cutting yourself loose.
It’s very simple. You write a one page statement, methodically and chronologically recording the sequence of events - your ex’s message; your message to former BiL; his wonderfully mature response (what did morons use before the 😂 emoji to express how profoundly untroubled they were?). Be dispassionate, but include a couple of sentences expressing your concern that their behaviour might adversely impact your life, and the lives of your children. Include screenshots of all the messages, and send them to the council, and to the police. Ask that they confirm receipt, send a reference number, and contact you in due course to apprise you of what’s been done. Done.

You know, I wouldn't have fb messaged the brother, but actually that was a stroke of genius because it turns out you are dealing with a pair with all the intellectual clout of a pair of shoes. And then they've both incriminated themselves! Brilliant.

Hang on.

Hang. Right. On.

They've just bumbled stupidly into trouble so comedically ridiculous you couldn't make it up.......

worriedaboutt - are they the Chuckle Brothers?

Sorry - I'm not making light of what they're doing, I'm just flabberghasted anyone could be so utterly thick.

And I think the police will see through whatever wording he's lumpenly thwacked into a keyboard because 'oops I hope you don't have an accident' or 'hope you don't fall off a cliff' or whatever he's come up with, is clear in its intention to upset, hurt, frighten and threaten.

Do you know for sure your ex's brother works there? I sniff BS. Still, agree with others that you need to involve the police now.

Yes, not to make light of this, but they are totally the chuckle brothers of crime.

Thick as shit.

As above advice, screenshot/save everything, contact the Police on 101, get the Council’s website up, search for Chief Information Officer and contact them on Tuesday.

Please remember though - if it comes to it - you did not make BIL lose his job. He made himself lose his job.

The police absolutely will be interested in this - it’s harassment and they have threatened illegal action against you. If they suffer the consequences of their actions, that is not your doing!