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To think they will never reveal Jon Venables identity

93 replies

Soubriquet · 02/05/2018 09:25

In case people attack him

Nice idea in theory stripping away what protects him as he certainly doesn't deserve it, but no court will grant it in case of mob justice

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MissionItsPossible · 02/05/2018 12:33

@jaseyraex That is awful. Horrific. I'd be storming into their offices and demanding a front page apology.

LittleLionMansMummy · 02/05/2018 12:39

hungry he'll already be on a sex offenders register due to what he's done more recently, so he wouldn't be allowed contact with children and the authorities would be keeping tabs on him (note his recent crimes involve images but not actual physical contact, probably for this reason).

In terms of his former life and new identity, appropriate markers will be attributed to him under his new identity. If a new partner wanted to use Sarah's Law they'd search his new name and disclose the high level details of the crimes as they would in any other case - abduction, murder, making or distributing images etc.

I don't know if PNC makes connections to former identities (probably not since any officer could theoretically run a check on his name and the authorities will want to limit the risk of disclosure) but either way, the crimes he was convicted of would be there and therefore be released. But it won't say 'addiction and murder of James Bulger'.

LittleLionMansMummy · 02/05/2018 12:40

abduction and murder

Lacucuracha · 02/05/2018 12:48

@Hungryhippo

For all those asking about relationships etc the authorities will ensure they are notified about his past. It will be part of his license conditions that he can’t keep partners secret etc.

But what about the people in a relationship or contact with him?
Say someone knew him and had suspicions about him, and wanted to use Sarah's Law to trace his history, but he has the anonymity so how would that work? That's what I'm curious about.

The post you responded to told you the answer. Anyone he is in a relationship with must be told of his former identity and the murder.

The people in contact with him don't have to be told his real identity. If they used Sarah's Law I think they would be told his new name only and also told he is on the sex offender's register.

nornironlady · 02/05/2018 13:19

From what I read yesterday the original court documents will be required to establish the terms in which JV remains anonymous. There could be a stipulation made at the time that he loses the right if he isn't rehabilitated which he clearly isn't. Should be very interesting to see how this plays out.

SleepIsForTheWeek · 02/05/2018 15:43

It's quite easy to find JV's identity online. It seems to be quite an open secret and the thought seems to be that he deserves to be identified in a way that RT doesn't as he hasn't reoffended. I can't see any benefit in openly identifying him though, as he will be immediate set upon by vigilantes and as others have said, god help anyone who looks like him.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 02/05/2018 19:30

April, are we supposed to feel sorry if he can't sleep in his bed? Perhaps if he didn't commit crimes and then tell people who he is then he might have a bit less to worry about!

To those saying that we don't have a right to know who he is, would you feel happy having him living in your street? I know I wouldn't.

To the poster who said being in prison for life give no incentive to reform, I agree but surely there comes a time when it's obvious that an offender will never reform and I feel with Venables that we've reached that point.

cushioncovers · 02/05/2018 19:41

IMO he's not wired right and never will be. He will always be a danger to society. No amount of rehabilitation will change him. He will need constant and continued monitoring for the rest of his life. As a society I think we desperately try to see the good in people and think that somehow we can help everyone but I am convinced unfortunately some humans are just beyond this. Just my opinion.

dinosaursandtea · 02/05/2018 19:46

Who the hell are all your weirdos looking him up online? What on earth does they contribute to your life?

mostdays · 02/05/2018 19:47

I don't want to know who he is and I don't think that information will ever be officially shared. I also don't think he should be freed, personally, but I'm aware it's not my decision and I don't have all the current facts.

Lacucuracha · 02/05/2018 20:18

Who the hell are all your weirdos looking him up online? What on earth does they contribute to your life?

As if you've never googled Jon Venables. If you're on this thread then you've googled him. Pull the other one Hmm

dinosaursandtea · 02/05/2018 20:35

I clicked on the thread because I was scrolling through AIBU - I can't imagine why anyone would actually go and google him to work out his new identity. That just feels creepy and gross and voyeuristic to me.

emmyrose2000 · 03/05/2018 03:43

IMO he's not wired right and never will be. He will always be a danger to society. No amount of rehabilitation will change him. He will need constant and continued monitoring for the rest of his life. As a society I think we desperately try to see the good in people and think that somehow we can help everyone but I am convinced unfortunately some humans are just beyond this. Just my opinion

My opinion too.

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/05/2018 04:20

We should never have known his identity in the first place.

^^ this.

He was a child. He had grown up into a vile adult and should now be locked up forever. Not as a child. Why would they release his identity?

OliviaStabler · 03/05/2018 05:35

His identity is already out there. He was outed by several paedophile hunting groups in February.

Barbaro · 03/05/2018 06:16

Just keep him locked up. He's costing us money anyway, keep him behind bars where he's 'safe'. Don't give a damn if he never feels freedom again, that sick minded bastard doesn't deserve it. He's proven time and time again he likes abusing children. Why would anyone want him free? He will never ever change. He will continue to get images of children being abused once out again, or maybe this time he'll do worse, who knows. But he certainly will never change and he'll never get better, it will stay the same or worse.

HermesAndPinot · 03/05/2018 06:57

As if you've never googled Jon Venables. If you're on this thread then you've googled him. Pull the other one

I genuinely haven’t looked him up, I really don’t want to see his repulsive face. And frankly, a length of rope would sort the problem out. Though I am aware that that is a widely unpopular view on MN.

Banana8080 · 03/05/2018 07:23

His name should never have been released in the first place. It's been costly to change his identity, innocent people at risk and others goaded into potentially breaking the law via Mc justice by knowing who he is.

Awful situation all round, but would have been better if we never knew his name or had his photo in the first place.

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