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To never buy snacks/squash/sweets etc again

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Fiera · 25/04/2018 23:32

Every single time there is somthing remotely snackly in the house it just gets taken and eaten. The large double concentrate bottles of squash gone within 24 hours, any kind of sugary cerial gone the same day they come through the door.
I dont like to use the word 'steal' but tonight its the only word i can use because my daughter actually STOLE my can of coke.
We never usually buy coke or Fizzy anything, nut it was my eldest sons birthday and all the children had a can as a very rare treat. My daughter actualli hid my can up her sleeve (after having drank hers earlier in the evening) and went and drank it in her bedroom.
Even my toddler daughters 'treats' like 'GoGo' biscuits and 'Goodies' puffs just disapear before she even knows theyre there.
We have a full fruit bowl, two actually, every day and even they get emptied. They have hot meals every day so theyre not 'hungry' just greedy.
I just dont understand why they do it and im seriously considering just not buying again.
My toddler will happily drink water (theres hardly ever any squash left for her anyway)

OP posts:
inchoccyheaven · 26/04/2018 11:10

@Juells I know that you are implying that i think my dc wouldn't possibly lie and that i must be an evil stepmum for suggesting its my dsd.

Yes it is my dsd who lies and my dw knows she does it and did before we were living together.
Its lying for no reason and then when confronted she just shrugs. No embarrassment or any emotion really. Over serious stuff dw will punish but petty stuff just ignores which I have to accept.

adaline · 26/04/2018 11:13

30 servings divided among 4 children equals 7.5 servings each. Especially when it's been warmer weather isn't excessive imo.

Really? A serving (250ml) of Sainsburys Hi-Juice squash has 14.9 grams of sugar in it. Multiply that by 7 and you're talking over 100g of sugar from drinks alone!

Poptart4 · 26/04/2018 11:14

It does sound like they are just greedy. You should stop buying the treats or put restrictions on them until they learn some self control.

As for taking your toddlers treats, you should be punishing them for this. It's not fair she's missing out because her siblings are greedy. Sit them all down and explain in no uncertain terms that if toddlers treats go missing they will all be punished. No WiFi, pocket money, conviscate phones, PlayStation etc whatever they value will be gone for a week. (one of these things not all of them)

Mightymucks · 26/04/2018 11:15

Get things like cheese and biscuits for snacks or packets of noodles or direct them to the toaster. They give the calories but they’ll eat them when they are hungry rather than for a sugar fix. Also it involves a bit of effort to prepare them so they’ll have to be hungry to go to the effort rather than just mindlessly eating them.

Juells · 26/04/2018 11:16

Its lying for no reason and then when confronted she just shrugs.

I really don't think that children lie for no reason. There has to be some emotional payback for them, surely? Off to google.
childmind.org/article/why-kids-lie/

Shadow666 · 26/04/2018 11:18

Is squash a British thing? I live abroad and have never seen it here. I wonder about other countries. I've only seen it in the UK that I can think of.

I think different families, different family dynamics, different strategies work best. OP needs to find a solution that works well for her family. It can be difficult to police food when you have a larger family, I think.

DairyisClosed · 26/04/2018 11:18

Squash is cordial

IamPeas · 26/04/2018 11:21

I might be being very old fashioned here, but when I was young I had to buy my sweets and crisps from my 'spends'. We did get treats at the weekend (cake, biscuits, etc) but they weren't an everyday thing.

Do kids get spends any more? (I don't have any - kids, not spends Grin)

Graphista · 26/04/2018 11:31

Frosty - I never have said unhealthy snacks are needed and I too suggested healthy alternative snacks/smaller meals in my first post. But I also think suggesting fruit/crudités is ridiculous in the other extreme as they don't provide enough calories.

"I think it’s important to have a balance and to provide healthy snacks and meals 80% of the time and allow some not so healthy choices the rest of the time." On this we agree and you've also said going to the too restrictive end of things isn't the answer either.

I'll be honest I'm overweight now but I was slim until mid 30's. Siblings are still both slim, parents are slim.

In my case it's partially due to:

medication (on 2 kinds which can reduce metabolic rate),

reduced mobility due to disability

mh issues mean I tend to feast or famine - anxiety makes me unable to eat - stomach "in knots" then when the anxiety goes I'm starving and crave stodge. So that will have messed with my metabolism too. I do tend to try and keep to a healthy diet but eg going through a period of high anxiety at the moment and if I manage a sandwich a day, maybe a yogurt too, I'm doing well.

Despite this I did actually lose 1.5 stone a few years ago and have kept it off.

Moderation is the key. Dd does far better than me. Low sugar high fibre cereal or wholemeal toast for breakfast, sandwich at work for lunch or maybe a baked potato or salad (there's a canteen), I'll cook her tea at home and that will be something healthy usually, stir fry with lots of veg served with plain rice or cous cous, pasta with sauce, casserole, stew, frittata, salads in the summer with boiled eggs or Ham for protein. But she does like crisps (as I said tends to crave them at time of month), the tiny bags of haribo, sweet breads (malt loaf, teacakes, cinnamon bread), and sometimes burger or kfc or similar (but hates chips so it's JUST a burger or chicken wings or whatever she has and a drink). So not perfect - but balanced.

happy2bhomely · 26/04/2018 11:35

I have 2 teens and 3 smaller dc.

I buy one 1.5 l of double concentrate squash a week. They only drink it at dinner time. We don't buy fruit juice.

They are all allowed 1 bag of crisps a day and one of each type of fruit a day. So 1 apple, 1 banana and 1 orange. One pack of biscuits is opened each day and they share them, so they get about 4 each.

I do an extra meal for the teens when they get home from school. Usually cheese on toast or pitta and hummus or pasta salad. The eldest usually comes down at bedtime and has a bowl of cereal or some toast before bed.

They are not allowed to help themselves to fizz or sweets or chocolate. I buy them as we want them and don't store them. They have sweets and fizz once a week while we watch a film and can eat lots in one go.

I serve large meals and they can eat as much as they want. They are all described as skinny and they all have good teeth.

inchoccyheaven · 26/04/2018 11:36

Juells we don't know why she lies, she just does. Bare faced lies. My dw is a very laid back person who doesn't punish her dd unless absolute necessary so it doesnt make sense. It's just the way it is. I just find it frustrating that's all.
As for my own dc, my eldest rarely lies and my ds2 does lie but will react differently if confronted.

Whatshallidonowpeople · 26/04/2018 11:40

If you didn't pitch these things as treats there wouldn't be an issue. Also, they should ask, not just take

mustbemad17 · 26/04/2018 11:42

Growing up my mum got fed up of this (3 teens at one point in the house) so she put us in charge of our own snacks. We were given a budget & allowed to choose what snacks/extra drinks we wanted each, & these were then 'ours' for the fortnight. There was no restrictions to when they were eaten/drunk, although we were still expected to eat our meals that mum prepped. Once things were gone, they were gone. The 'communal' food as it were was restricted a bit more because obviously it had to do meals etc for everyone, so there was no eating three pot noodles just because, or using up loads of ham for the sake of it.

Worked well because we learned to be sensible & actually to make the most of the meals we were given 😂 to me, making something a 'treat' means it has higher value; i remember feeling like if i didn't nab my share my brothers would nick it all. Make it insignificant & give some control & you might be surprised

Lethaldrizzle · 26/04/2018 11:42

If they are 'greedy' or are bingeing, surely you need to ask why they feel the need to do so. No one in our house binge eats

TawnyPort · 26/04/2018 11:46

If you didn't pitch these things as treats there wouldn't be an issue

Oh please, how thick do yuo think kids are? They know crisps and chocolate is a treat, we ALL know that!

Lethaldrizzle · 26/04/2018 12:00

Tawny - no they're not. My kids don't even like crisps.

Whatshallidonowpeople · 26/04/2018 12:04

They know it because you tell them that. It's just food. Stop being so cruel to your children!

mustbemad17 · 26/04/2018 12:15

Anything can be a 'treat' if it's restricted. Much better to pitch things as part of a whole picture imo

adaline · 26/04/2018 12:19

Oh please, how thick do yuo think kids are? They know crisps and chocolate is a treat, we ALL know that!

They're a treat because people make them that way. Like a PP said, anything can be a treat if it's restricted enough. I don't see TV as a treat for kids, but other people definitely treat it that way - no TV time unless you've done x, y and z, for example.

Rikalaily · 26/04/2018 12:28

Some teens are just plain greedy. Ours have a cupboard full of junk and snacks and my 13y old still helped herself to my Birthday Celebrations chocs this morning and she's so lazy she left the wrappers on the livingroom floor. Angry She helps herself to whatever she feels like because she's a selfish little madam - Nothing to do with going without, some people just feel entitled to take whatever they want.

Fiera · 26/04/2018 12:45

Pointless asking anything here because its all juzt gets turned into drama..

OP posts:
adaline · 26/04/2018 12:48

You've had loads of good advice!

Graphista · 26/04/2018 12:48

Have to say I agree you've been given lots of possible reasons and solutions

Fiera · 26/04/2018 12:53

Ive taken the good advice, Thank you :)

I just dont think comments saying i dont give them enough food and 'stop being cruel to your children' are necessary

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ParisUSM · 26/04/2018 13:05

I think this whole 'treat' things is weird. Food shouldn't be a reward, and thankfully it never was when I was growing up. So I just eat what I want and if I've put on a few pounds I stop eating rubbish. Far too much emotion caught up in food and not giving your children access to as much unhealthy food as they want is not cruel.

No wonder there's so many fat people in the country!

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