To ask you what you think about this cute flat I spotted for rent in North London?

[purplebush]

Isn't it lovely? And only £765 a month. BARGAIN!

They tidied it up beautifully for the photoshoot too.

www.primeukestates.co.uk/properties/riverside-road-london-n15/

😀😄😂

KirstenRaymonde I meant to say that that was in 2010

“People get really defensive about London, bit I do t see the appeal of living somewhere where you can’t afford to do any of the many things on offer because you put all your money into ridiculous rental prices. Each to their own I guess”

Perhaps People get irritated, not defensive. Of course Londoners ‘realise’. Of course Londoners are either actually making a choice, or else are trapped or obliged in some way to be here. Some people do jobs because they love them, have a talent and a passion, and can only do that job in London. It isn’t actually all about money. Some people have generations of family living here and have responsibilities. Mostly we get on with it, live in small flats, and roll our eyes when the regional comparisons start, or as normal folk on average wages we get the ‘elitist Londoners ‘ schtick.

YOU don’t see the appeal, fair enough, don’t go for it. It’s great that you enjoy your life. Hopefully you are not one of those posters who gets ‘defensive ‘ when Londoners point out some of the constraints and restrictions of living elsewhere. EVERYWHERE has it’s pros and cons.

It's certainly bottom of the range which is probably why it's with an estate agent I've never heard of.

Prices do tend to reflect jobs. I was looking with my son on line the other night. He hought a small house end of a tube line £330k. We looked at rural Northumberland (I like this off grid one with 15 acres - we used to have holidays near there and I am from the NE - www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-51779160.html £395k deatched 3 beds but his employer does not operate up there (and local wages are very low). So we then looked at Yorkshire and prices were higher near where he might work and there were many more jobs, although lower house prices than in the SE. But then the scope for finding a new job can be harder where property prices are less as well. It's very difficult and always has been. My ancestors have moved all over the place to get jobs and housing from Lincs up to the NE, Ireland to the NE, down to Yorkshire or from there, then Orkney, to Peterhead to the NE, also Edinburgh to NE. Then one to London the 1890s for work (she was an assistant matron on a large London ward and trained in the 1890s in Birmingham), another moved down to Leeds to work, I moved to London.

That does not make it easy of course for people who don't earn a lot and live in places with high prices. I found the street mym grandfather a blacksmith was born in in the 1800s recently - the house 1 up one down on that road cost £50,000 today not they could afford to buy.

A one bedroom flat at that price in London (cheaper than a room in a flatshare), I'm not sure what you were expecting.

It's on a nice street, and near a zone 3 tube station. Even if it is a converted garage, it is a bargain!

I've rented worse in London tbh

I don’t think it’s that bad. What’s sad is that someone will pay it . They’ll probably have lots of interest .

people get really defensive about London
Yeah that's because every time there is a thread on here about 'look at this house in London' its 'lets insult Londoners' time by suggesting they have no idea how to get out and then posters come out with the 'wow I can't believe how expensive London is'. It gets really old really quickly.

That’s awful.

I feel really sorry for people living in london.

This is what you can get in the prime location in Newcastle for that price

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-53959239.html

And an excellent case in point...

I hope they're paying council tax on the annex!

It’s just eye opening if you don’t live in London because you hear ‘London is expensive’ all the time but its shocking when you see the reality of it.

I understand why people live there though, the north east is fantastic but there’s not as many opportunities as in London.

And I don’t think you can really expect not to post ‘oh my god that’s so expensive for so little’
When the thread is about a shed with a sink in it that someone is renting out for twice the price of my monthly mortgage.
The gasps of shock are from sympathy and outrage though.

It IS so expensive for so little - I agree! But it always becomes a 'let's see what you can get in the North for comparison' which is the bit that people become bored with.
How it is legal to let what appears to be a shed is beyond me - I once visited a room for let with a 'shared lounge' - it was the loft with a chair in it... Not a loft room, literally a loft...

Well I automatically think ‘what can I get in the north’ because that’s where I live so it’s like a conversion rate that I use to calculate how expensive something is.

I’m not suggesting everyone move to the north, we have our problems too. In fact lots of people’s homes are in negative equity because pockets of the north’s housing hasn’t recovered from the crash.

That flat is shocking though, it should be illegal!!

That's terrible re. negative equity. Housing is just going to get worse unfortunately - I can't see a way out of it.

I don't buy this "most people are trapped in London" crap. Most people in London reside their by choice. This choice can be the result of many things - family, friends, a job they love. But it is a choice and they should be left to get on with it.

And as for "impossible to find work outside the capital" nonsense - please, get a grip.

I was paying that last year for a two bed house in the Cotswolds on an acre plot.

I know I know. It’s London. But lettings like this just reek of exploitation.

I can't see how people think the flat is amusing, or how they can be so accepting of it, just because it's in London. It's not right that in 21st century Britain anybody could be expected to live in those conditions. People have a right to a basic standard of housing and this 'housing' certainly doesn't meet that standard. What if the occupant had a child? Living in those conditions would be seriously injurious to a person's mental wellbeing. Why are landlords profiting from people living in such awful, unacceptable housing? It is just wrong.

Go for it immediately 🤣

You couldn’t pay me to live in London, or most places down south.

What a laff !!

LARLARLAND because tenants' rights aren't well-known enough. For lots of landlords making money is the only thing that matters, and the high number of people looking for housing means if one poor sod won't put up with it another will.
My DH got nearly £300 taken off him for unfair deposit reductions at the end of a tenancy. Thankfully he was at uni and the housing service was fantastic, they helped him fight it. It took him 2 years but he got his money back and more because the deposit hadn't been protected. But it meant he had to go without the rest of the deposit and pay the fee for a small claim in the meantime (and then get bailiffs to actually get the money). We could afford it but lots would not be able to, so they would just suck the £300 up. It's crap.

I don't understand how an estate agent could be complicit in renting out substandard housing? Do the authorities in London not care about tenants?

It's not the whole North that's cheap though, is it? Mostly those areas where there's little employment, or few options if the employment that is there were to shut down.

I know people who live in York, where prices are horrific, rental or purchase (although, admittedly, not London prices, but steep for the wages you get), and then go over to Thirsk, where the prices are cheap, but there's a lot of commuting over country roads to get to employment.

It's just supply and demand.

My first thoughts weren't even related to the size or the price but the fact that it's probably bloody cold in winter.

LARLARLAND that isn't just the case in London though - there are bastard landlords everywhere, just as there are very nice ones everywhere...