Myself and my partner.... AIBU?

[JustVent]

It’s my partner and I......!

Whenever I read ‘myself’ I fee like it’s someone trying to sound literate but failing spectacularly.

Same as “please contact myself.”

No.

I wouldn't dream of correcting anyone. This is a thread about English pronouns though, so it's a little different. As a PP said, I would remain silent but probably judge someone who said "me and John" or "John invited my husband and I".

makingtime, guess what, there ARE no rules in English!
So any teacher who lays the law down about this or that grammar rule IS making it up. The problem is that people are told something once and believe it to be incontrovertibly true/
IN fact, if native speakers of English say 'myself' then it's not wrong.
My sister is a school English teacher and doesnt' know the difference between a noun and a verb.

I'm with DullAndOld, the rule about 'me and John' is that you shouldn't say 'me and John went to the shops', not that you shouldn't say 'my mother bought a present for me and John'. It doesn't matter what order you put people in as long as the case is correct.

its like my brother parroting on about the 'wrongness' of split infinitives.

A bunch of grammarians who had been educated in Latin got together some years ago and tried to lay down the law about the English language, and decided that as you cannot split an infinitive in Latin, then you shouldn't do so in English either.

Some people are still convinced, but i say we should boldly step into the future of the language, not look back.

Oh, but I'm not with you DullAndOld on 'there are no rules in English'. I'm always judging things that are just plain wrong

It is the hallmark of a pompous idiot.

I know someone who writes on her Facebook statuses: "John and I's", as in "thank you very much for all of john and I's anniversary cards". Ffs!!

I'm not as pedantic as I once was, because, life is short and all that. But the one I mentioned above is just inexplicable !

@ sumandsubstance.
There is no academy of English, which might decide what is wrong or right. This is unlike Spanish or French, who have academies, where a bunch of old farts sit about and decide which word will or will not be allowed into the dictionary.

This is a major strength of English as a world language.

People think saying "me" is rude. Lots think that using "myself" instead sounds far more polite and refined.

I had an argument at work once with a colleague - I said "here's the report from Sarah and me" and she went off on one telling me that it should be "from Sarah and I" which is quite plainly wrong.

DullAndOld, yes I see what you mean. I don't think that's a strength though - it would make me very happy if there were a panel of crusty old grammarians with gavels to say, "No, 'would of' is just plain bollocks"

I hate the "please speak to John or I" mistake too. I remember someone giving me all sorts of grief for saying something along the lines of "he spoke to Sally and me". He was hooting with laughter saying "you're a TEACHER! Don't you even know it's "he spoke to Sally and I"? Teachers these days, blah blah, blah, no wonder the kids don't know anything!"

'would of' yeh i see what you mean...

My sister and I went to the cinema.

The tickets were given to my sister and me.

A rule of thumb to determine use of I or me is to take out the other person from the sentence.

Myself drives me nuts. Split infinitives don't.

Can I volunteer to be a crusty old grammarian with a gavel? I think it would bring me a sense of inner peace beyond the capabilities of religion or meditation.

No way will I ever accept that is actually correct because half the country says it!

"You can talk to myself..." ARGH. NO I CAN'T. I can talk to MYSELF, and YOU can talk to YOURSELF.

Do you know how to soothe a crusty old grammarian? Pat them on the shoulder and say, "There, their, they're"

where a bunch of old farts sit about and decide which word will or will not be allowed into the dictionary.

OED editors do exactly that. They add around 1000 words a year after analysing contemporary useage.

@ scampimom

Actually i want to join the table, but i will have a stick on beard, in grey.

Yes the OED does that, but it is descriptive, not prescriptive. That is the difference.

Can I urge all of the myself-rage responders to listen to the wonderful Cabin pressure for Arthur’s excellent ‘myself’ ‘yourself’ customer announcements

French is much more regular than English thus it's possible to regulate in a way that English cannot.

YADNBU! It's just awful.

I get a lot of sales calls and they are obsessed with it. I agree, they think it makes them sound clever (when it does the opposite).

I had one guy manage to shoehorn in several variations of "if yourself could let myself know" several times in one call.

ridingwindhorses why do think that might be? the regularity of French? Is it because they have had an academy and resisted change? I am fascinated by this.