Hart Family Murder- Six children murdered by adoptive parents

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AIBU to think the press coverage of this case is woeful in comparison to that of the Turpin Family and all these children are Missing Presumed Dead. Its this an example of institutional racism in the media?time.com/5230702/california-cliff-crash-hart-family-child-abuse/

It was covered well. The only reason it’s being given more air is because they’re trying to push the whole controlling home ed kids thing

They could well have been trying to accelerate out of a landslide. Certainly the photos show an unstable road. It is spectacular but there are parts of that highway that are currently under reconstruction due to landslides.

That doesn't detract from the history involved in the family, which raises more questions and I agree with corythatwas

I really don’t think you park on a gravel picnic/rest area and then accelerate towards a cliff edge from a standing start, to escape a landslide.

Nice that you’re trying to make excuses for her, but it just doesn’t make sense.

From the article, it seems that there were allegations of abuse that stretched back many years.

I can't help but think that if this had been a black couple who'd adopted white children rather than the other way round, this would have been taken a lot more seriously.

I'm not making excuses for anyone. Battleax.

What made you think I was?

What I find awful about this case is the abuse that was ignored by three states. That's the awful thing here.

How awful! I remember seeing one article about this at the time it was believed to be an accident. The article centred on one of the boys who had been in the news previously for a good deed of some kind. I can’t remember the details of it.

Why do they believe the missing children we’re in the car? Where do they think the bodies went?

Jesus. They had no business letting them adopt six children.

The article centred on one of the boys who had been in the news previously for a good deed of some kind. I can’t remember the details of it.

He was giving out “free hugs” at festivals. It seems Mum had delusions of some sort about her “rainbow tribe” and enjoyed the attention, so she drove them from festival to festival and exhibited them. Some of her reproduced FB posts read as grandiose. DC were her pawns.

In retrospect the photo of Devonte he going the cop looks rather different;

edition-m.cnn.com/2018/03/28/us/family-killed-in-pacific-coast-crash-children-missing/index.html?rm=1

^hugging

Poor kids. That picture of the eldest hugging a policeman crying takes on all sorts of terribly sad meanings now.

He actually looked scared.

Thanks for that battleax I agree he looks scared in that photo.

I also see now that the car was in water so that answers my question about the missing bodies.

I know our SS have issues in this country, but one thing they do get right is with adoptions the best family from the point of view of the child is picked and it’s much less about what prospective adoptive parents want. No way would they have been allowed to take on a second set of three siblings in this country, especially when all may have had some sort of additional needs.

This case is horrendous because it was reported so many times. They really need to get their arses together re children’s services sharing information with other states.

They seemed to treat those poor children like accessories to be posed and exhibited.

I can’t bear people who do that, fetishise children of different races as an accessory. They’re children. Not toys.

battleax, I thought it looked like a release TBH. Like he hadn’t had affection like that from a human in a long time. Poor little guy.

I strongly suspect, based on what I've read so far, that this was one abusive adult and one abused adult. The same parent (the Sahp) was the one who was driving, is also the one who keeps popping up in abuse related claims, despite the other parent (the working mum) being the one who was prosecuted after a confession.

And then there's that other thing I'm wondering, that I can't say without deletion so... 🤐

Have read up a bit more about this case and it certainly seems to be an act of family annihilation, very rare in women. I think Beyond has it perfect.

And there are clear similarities with the Turpin family too, with one of the children escaping to a neighbour's house in the middle of the night to ask for help and another child asking the same neighbour for food all non perishable - the child even asked that the neighbour not inform his parents - an immediate red flag for safeguarding.

The CPS were alerted when the neighbour's father rang the police; his daughter felt very uneasy about it and told her dad as her husband had said not to get involved. To be fair the CPS did act quickly but by then it was too late - they all left and then were murdered by the driver at the wheel.

The picture I was looking at was not where they had gone off the cliff. Just shows you have to be accurate before you post!

The reporting is weird, like they are only telling half of a story. So I think yanbu op. All reporting seems to either be directly about the crash or about the boy whose photo went viral, where as usually there would be a lot more background stuff.

Apparently (from web sleuths, where I am trying to catch up on the four threads!) the parents met at college where they were on the same course, but there are only records of one of them (the working mother) graduating?
All reports (and there are very few of them) of the parents life before they adopted the children are about the working mother. It's as if the parent who appears - from reports of older abuse and the fact they were initially reported to be driving - to be the abuser didn't exist before adopting?

I got the date of the call from the father of the neighbour wrong. It was made in November and nothing was done about it due to lack of information. Link here:

www.koin.com/news/crashes/friend-calls-911-after-text-from-sarah-hart/1115913277?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KOIN_6

So the neighbours finally contacted the CPS after one of the siblings went to them asking for food.

Websleuths isn't the greatest source. Lots of rampant speculation based on little reliable evidence, but the moderators also delete anything that is deemed to be remotely "inflammatory" about people unless they have been named suspects. So it's effectively a vacuum. Reddit is where you want to be.

DM link that has the court documents showing that the mother prosecuted was not the parent that the child said had hit her...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5559459/Mother-died-plunging-California-cliff-previously-arrested-ASSAULTING-daughter.html

DM link that has the court documents showing that the mother prosecuted was not the parent that the child said had hit her...

That bit is possibly the strangest aspect of the whole thing, because again officialdom were involved in that.

Wait, they were driving a 5 seater car at the time? But all 8 of them were supposedly in it?

Add to that the fact that only 3 of the kids' bodies were located (possibly a fourth - yet to be identified), and that doesn't add up.

Pure speculation here (probably belonging more on websleuths!), but would a previous conviction for J possibly explain why S would take the fall for that? Would a police force ignore priors from one suspect if another confessed? Especially in a "minor" DV case (in their eyes - basing that on the suspended sentence given)?

Which - again more speculation - makes me look at the lack of history info reported for J and wonder if J changed her name to hide something from her past?

It was an eight seater, afaik it has been clarified some reports have given the wrong car info (the five seat pickup model, rather than the eight seat SUV model)

I have not heard of this case at all