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We stand at a tipping point: do we fire up the popcorn maker or start digging a fallout shelter in the garden? (Trump cont)

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boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 22:01

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3207431-When-a-nation-s-children-marched-and-their-President-ignored-them-Trump-cont

I’m all out of inspiration for the rest of this opening post. Send the St Bernard with the brandy please.

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lionheart · 18/04/2018 08:10

See.

We stand at a tipping point: do we fire up the popcorn maker or start digging a fallout shelter in the garden? (Trump cont)
PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2018 08:42

Sean Hannity news is a real problem for Michael Cohen
edition.cnn.com/2018/04/16/opinions/sean-hannity-news-is-a-real-problem-for-michael-cohen-coates/index.html

In fact, while responding on his radio show to news that he had been identified as one of Cohen's three clients, Hannity explicitly stated that he was never represented by nor had he ever retained Cohen. He bent over backwards to deny the relationship
[...]
Hannity's denial fatally undermined any credible claim by Cohen that their communications were protected from disclosure by the attorney client privilege. The privilege extends to only those private conversations that take place within an established attorney-client relationship, and even then, those conversations must specifically pertain to legal advice. The privilege does not extend to conversations simply because one of its participants happens to be an attorney.

Interestingly enough, this is precisely what the government argued in favor of the disclosure of Cohen's communications with other purported clients. To get the search warrant in the first place, the government had to have convinced the court that Cohen and his so-called clients were not actually in an attorney-client relationship, and therefore their conversations were not privileged.

Hannity just confirmed that to be true, at least with respect to himself. That certainly undermined the credibility of Cohen and perhaps explains why Cohen wanted to keep their relationship confidential.

But even if an attorney-client relationship between Cohen and Hannity did actually exist, it is the client, not the attorney, who controls the disclosure of communication. Even if Cohen wanted to disclose the discussions, he would only be allowed to do so if Hannity agreed to it.

But in this case, Hannity isn't asserting the privilege, so Cohen lacks any basis not to disclose the information or to prevent the government from looking at any communications between himself and Hannity.

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2018 08:50

I'm now singing

"You're so dim,
I'll bet you think this law's not about you"

to the tune by Carly Simon.

Actually that should be the anthem for the whole entitled, brain-cell-free boiling of them in Drumpfland. Sam Nunberg a recent florid example.

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2018 08:57

It might even displace

"Putin's boy
You are the cutest little Putin's toy
When Daddy Vladdy calls, you spurt with joy
Putin's boy"

as my earworm.

lionheart · 18/04/2018 09:20

There is a Pussy Riot song called 'Make America Great Again.' Smile

lionheart · 18/04/2018 09:33

Here's an ouch.

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/383633-stormy-daniels-to-donate-to-planned-parenthood-in-trump-and

'Daniels, who will be featured on the cover of Penthouse next month, made the commitment during an interview with the magazine, The Daily Beast reported Tuesday. Cohen, Trump's longtime personal attorney, paid Daniels $130,000 to stay quiet about an alleged affair with Trump.

The cover of the magazine shows Daniels with an American flag and the headline, “Penthouse Pet of the Century: Getting Intimate With the Most Wanted Woman in America.”'

ohmymimi · 18/04/2018 13:48

talkingpointsmemo.com/podcasts/the-josh-marshall-podcast/ep-9-why-did-donald-trump-get-in-so-deep-with-michael-cohen-we-explain/
There is lots of really interesting background in this podcast. The taxi business, the Cohen family/Ukraine links, the access to dirty money. Fascinating stuff.

AcrossthePond55 · 18/04/2018 14:13

For those of you able to watch US TV, James Comey will be on The View today. I know it's on at 10 am PDT, not sure about East Coast broadcast time.

Roussette · 18/04/2018 14:17

Like that cohen mobbier article mini. I like a 'good grief' as it's what I say when I'm trying to stop using foul language Grin

Here's Trump stormily rattled...

slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/trump-calls-stormy-daniels-thug-story-a-total-con-job.html

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 18/04/2018 14:17

I have no idea what a breeding concept is.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
There is a Revolution going on in California. Soooo many Sanctuary areas want OUT of this ridiculous, crime infested & breeding concept. Jerry Brown is trying to back out of the National Guard at the Border, but the people of the State are not happy. Want Security & Safety NOW!
10:59 am · 18 Apr 2018

Lweji · 18/04/2018 14:18

This is THE interview that matters.

All 30 min of it. With wine in plastic cups and all.

I've only actually managed to watch half of it so far and won't be able to watch the rest until later.

Roussette · 18/04/2018 14:29

I saw a small clip of that Lweji, it was amusing!

lionheart · 18/04/2018 16:04

I think I know what his 'breeding concept' means, unfortunately.

lionheart · 18/04/2018 16:05

From a Russian media analyst:

Julia Davis
‏*@JuliaDavisNews*

It's amazing to watch how fast Russian propagandists fall in line with the Kremlin's directive to lay off Trump. Now they're saying Russian retaliatory sanctions should target the UK & France and the main agitators, May & Macron - not the U.S. or Trump.

lionheart · 18/04/2018 16:07

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fund-raiser-gop-senate-hopeful-rips-parkland-survivors-article-1.3937631

ALBANY — A fund-raiser for a Republican state Senate candidate in Westchester County tweeted out attacks on two student survivors of the February mass shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school.

Denise Ward, who hosted a fund-raiser last week for GOP candidate Julie Killian, took to Twitter to attack Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg, who since the attack has been an outspoken advocate for gun control.

cozietoesie · 18/04/2018 17:13

"I'm like a break-up he can't get over".

Thanks, Lweji. Smile

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2018 17:47

That bit was brilliant! "I've moved on; he's still waking up in the morning and tweeting about me." [not verbatim]

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2018 17:54

Trump contradicts himself, claiming Russia inquiry not behind Comey firing
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/18/james-comey-not-fired-over-russia-investigation-donald-trump

Donald Trump said the former FBI director James Comey was not fired because of the Russia investigation in a tweet early on Wednesday, in a direct contradiction of statements he had made previously.

“Slippery James Comey, the worst FBI Director in history, was not fired because of the phony Russia investigation where, by the way, there was NO COLLUSION (except by the Dems),” Trump tweeted.

The statement does not square with Trump’s comments during a televised NBC News interview in May 2017 when he listed “this Russia thing” as one of the primary reasons he decided to fire Comey.