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To think our national anthem is shit

124 replies

Menarefrommarsitwouldseem · 31/03/2018 22:51

Just watching the Anthony Joshua fight and he's fighting someone from New Zealand.
Their national anthem is mightily long. However, ours is just awful imo
I'm neither a royalist nor anti. Indifferent.

I just think our national anthem could be so much better!

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CollyWombles · 01/04/2018 08:20

Scottish and love our national anthem, flower of Scotland. My dd sang it with her class mates at a school assembly and there wasn't a dry eye in the room.

Olddear · 01/04/2018 08:28

I hate GSTQ and as a republican, I don't sing it. But I detest FoS in equal measure (I'm Scottish) it's a wailing, anti-English, wha's- like - us dirge.
Scotland the Brave is at least a good tune!

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 01/04/2018 08:28

Mine’s awesome
But then I’m Welsh Grin

sluj · 01/04/2018 08:32

I agree we should change from GSTQ and just keep that for royal occasions. There's no reason why we couldn't slightly modify the words of Land of Hope and Glory to represent modern Britain though.
Thank heavens I look to the half of me that's Welsh when it comes to sport

KC225 · 01/04/2018 08:35

Another for Land of Hope and Glory

Menarefrommarsitwouldseem · 01/04/2018 08:49

I must have glazed over at some point as I only noticed one for Parker ha.

Land of hope and glory would be a good one for sure.

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FleurDelacoeur · 01/04/2018 08:50

It's a bit of a dirge. I used to like Flower of Scotland until it was hijacked by the nationalists. La Marseillaise is the best one.

Billy Connolly said that the Archers Theme should be the UK anthem and I think I agree with him.

FleurDelacoeur · 01/04/2018 08:52

My friends who are not British think it’s weird that the Ebgland football team sings ‘god save the Queen’ ad it’s the UK anthem and England should have their own anthem.

At the last Commonwealth Games the English team used Jerusalem.

mintich · 01/04/2018 08:58

I wouldn't really care about the anti Scottish verse in GSTQ if it was just the English anthem but it's not, its the British anthem which is why it's a problem.
(Although I don't know many Scots who would sing it anyway!)

BakedBeans47 · 01/04/2018 09:01

look up Billi Connelly national anthem on YouTube it’s hilarious.

Ha yes, I love this!

GTSQ is shite. It’s a total dirge, I hate it. FOS is dismal as well.

backaftera2yearbreak · 01/04/2018 09:10

Love flower of scotland. The only time I’m ever British is during the Olympics. That’s the only time I’m ever happy to hear it.

FleurDelacoeur · 01/04/2018 09:15

The bit in God Save the Queen which is anti-Scottish is definitely there, but the very last verse which is never sung:

"Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring
May he sedition hush
And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush
God save the Queen"

Marshall Wade was (I think) sent to Scotland after Bonnie Prince Charlie was defeated to keep the Scots in order. Given that GSTQ was written in 1745, that reference was much more relevant at that time than now.

As for Flower of Scotland, the whole song is about sending the English "home to think again". But they're harking back even further - to 1314 and Bannockburn. It's all a bit pathetic.

We need something a bit more 21st century. Just don't let Simon Cowell get involved.

bakewelltarty · 01/04/2018 09:20

Aren't England using Jerusalem at the upcoming commonwealth games?

PistFump · 01/04/2018 09:29

We should start a petition to change it to LOHAG after the queen shuffles off. I think that would be an appropriate time to change it!

Speedy85 · 01/04/2018 09:32

The current one is so dreary. I would infinitely prefer Jerusalem (despite slightly bonkers lyrics) or Land of Hope and Glory.

redexpat · 01/04/2018 09:36

The French one is quite rousing.

SerenDippitty · 01/04/2018 09:37

I would love to hear English football fans belting out English Country Garden Grin

MichaelKnightsCar · 01/04/2018 09:46

The only time you really hear national anthems is at sporting events and tbh I've never heard one from any country that doesn't sound dreary.

MadMags · 01/04/2018 09:55

Sorry, why are English people singing about Jerusalem?! Confused

bonnielies0verthe0cean · 01/04/2018 09:59

I vow to thee my country

bonnielies0verthe0cean · 01/04/2018 09:59

Jerusalem wouldn't work for whole of UK

DancesWithOtters · 01/04/2018 10:00

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TheFallenMadonna · 01/04/2018 10:01

Jerusalem is about England.

Welshmaenad · 01/04/2018 10:02

Mine's amazing. You should just borrow it if you don't like your insipid English one. You can properly put your lungs into it. GWLAD! GWLAAAAAAAAAAAD!

VeronicaLodge · 01/04/2018 10:06

God Save the Queen is a god awful dirge.

Flower of Scotland is also a god awful dirge.