Pharmacies want to keep us sick 🙁 is there ANY truth to this?

[TuscanMum]

There’s a lady I know who posts lots of pharmaceutical conspiracies on a regular basis. Things like, they have a vested interest in keeping us sick so as we continue to need their drugs.

The sane part of me says this is rubbish, can’t be allowed, no way.

But a little part of me wonders.🙁

I have a vested interest in this as I’ve an autoimmune disease and keep trying different types of strong medication that haven’t yet worked but Rheumatologist says it’s not cureable and drugs are necessary.

Met a man, just today, who said his wife has lupus but refuses meds and just manages with diet.

I’d be interested to hear what others think or know about this?

Pharmacists are useful people and give good advice.Our local one is good and gave advice about my DDs acne and recommended a product to try that another big pharmacy make before taking her to the GP.It has helped immensely.

The evidence shown already that cannabis can cure and help cancer and epilepsy is outstanding.
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Yet not one real study into using this to help tells me all I need to know.*

There's plenty of RCT for cannabidiol and epilepsy. How do you think Epidiolex is getting approved?!

Less so for cannabis containing THC - because CBD has been found to be the most effective compound from the hemp plant without the psychoactive effects that THC containing meds can have.

There are RCT - it's simply not accurate to say there aren't 'real studies'

That's just mad... I work with 7 of the world's most eminent neuro bods via my charity. We have had involvement with one of the big pharma cos; the cancer we are dealing with is currently pretty intractable. Every single ONE of these people wants to find the cure, basically because they want to make people's lives better. If there is glory, or money, to be made along the way - so be it - the investment of time, money and expertise is absolutely massive.

I wouldn’t put this past big pharma companies as they are businesses. Luckily for us the NHS also conduct a lot of research and their interest is in the health of the nation, but also in saving money.

@Backscratchesforever

Is a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial researching the efficacy of cannabidiol for epilepsy, published in the New England Journal of Medicine not a 'real study'?

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1611618

How about this RCT currently underway to research the effect of cannabidiol in treating epilepsy due to Tuberous Sclerosis Complex?

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02544763

Or this RCT published in the Lancet researching the efficacy of CBD in treating epilepsy due to Lennox Gastaut Syndrome?

www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)30136-3/fulltext

What is your definition of a 'real study'? Given you've said no real study exists.

banana I think “real study” equals mainstream media coverage of a severely affected child dramatically becoming seizure free after cannabis and now living a normal life. Ideally after the parents have had to fight for the treatment.

The reality, where some, but not even half, of severely intellectually impaired children with intractable epilepsy have a reduction in seizure frequency isn’t quite as media friendly. They remain intellectually impaired and they don’t become seizure-free.

Everyone i've ever known who's had the flu jab gets the flu within days. If they could cure cancer they probably wouldn't because so many medical staff would be out of work.

I work for a pharmaceutical company.

I suggest that those on this thread who think they have all the answers take their extensive qualifications and their peer reviewed clinical trials and apply for jobs in the industry. If you're such experts then you'll have no problem getting recruited and getting your products to market.

Momo18, If you go to the doctors for a headache, he/she will (perhaps wrongly) assume that you've had the sense to rule out dehydration.

@knickerelastic how do you define people you know? Do you include mumsnetters? Because I've had the flu vaccine for years and have never gotten flu.

Some of these myths are ludicrous. Doctors only ever prescribe and don't counsel on lifestyle and diet? A couple of days on mumsnet will show you things like posters who are overweight posting about dreading going to the GP because they know they will be advised on their weight and they see this as an attack. Or people worrying about their husband / parent etc not listening to what the GP told them about diet for high blood pressure or early diabetes and worrying their loved one will need medication instead. Or a thousand other everyday examples of doctors giving diet and lifestyle advice. Conspiracy theorists simply refuse to see the evidence in front of their very eyes.

Also @Catsandkids78 the fasting and health lifestyle, helps prevent cancer and helps prevent it spreading/reoccurring. It does not and will not treat an active cancer. We need drugs for these, chemo and radio.

Also a recent study that was reported on found that cycling into your 80's helped with your immune system www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43308729

So it is not being hidden - people are just choosing not to listen

Seems relevant ...

Backscratcher what Dr said this on national TV I’ll tell my oncologist brother he’s wrong and cancer is curable through cannabis...

Lol at ‘doctors are getting commission’ amd ‘everyone I know who gets the flu jab has the flu within days’
Ok then.

And if cannabis ‘cured cancer’ nobody would die from cancer.

*knickerelastic

Everyone i've ever known who's had the flu jab gets the flu within days. *

Not true it contains no live virus for a start, why would NHS staff be given a flu jab if it makes them ill? They probably get a little temp and feel a bit achy in your muscles which happens with the majority of injections

It's worth looking into the history of Lithium as an antischizophrenic if you want to get some indication.
Lithium is the safest most effective drug for schizophrenia yet was unavailable for years as it is not possible to patent it. Pharm companies basically wouldn't go near it as it would make them no money....

Knicker I have the flu jab most years, never had the flu after the flu jab.

Whoever described antidepressants as being prescribed for ‘lifestyle’ illnesses can just fuck off. Depression and other mental health issues are not lifestyle choices, or a result of choosing antidepressants instead of yoga.

DD just did a yr11 EPQ partly on medicinal uses of cannabis. She's quite converted it should be legal for that purpose. Hasn't mentioned cancer cure.

There's no need to keep folk sick, but lots of incentive to keep folk alive. People nowadays are on lots of meds b/c lots of the medications are effective and let you live longer (& better quality of life) so by getting older you have time to develop more conditions that are, again, manageable on good meds so they mean you live longer which means you'll probably develop another condition (unless you die) That's the actual cycle.

Shame on Big Pharma! Keeping people alive so long. Terrible result of profit motive, eh?

If Big Pharma wanted to keep us all sick, they could accelerate antibiotic resistance while developing expensive meds that somewhat manage infection symptoms without curing them.

Could do the same for all sorts of health conditions, really. Get rid of existing cures & promote symptomatic management instead. You know, if that was their motive, to just keep us all sick.

My Dad has MS and there is a Cannabis based drug for that which he was given. He hated it and stopped taking it.

The side effects are too much. You might think being stoned is fun, but if it’s a permanent state of affairs to reduce pain it’s really not much fun.

I don't think there's a conspiracy and I don't think anyone's trying to keep anyone sick

I do think that we are swapping some diseases and illnesses for others - that's what nature does, finds ways to grow elsewhere. I think sometimes we try to eliminate one disease with a vaccine or we do it by better hygiene or something else (I'm not anti-vax, still get them) and by cutting down one, we become more succeptible to another

I don't think that's a purposeful conspiracy. I think that is nature

I doubt @Backscratchesforever will come back to respond to the replies to her comments, but FWIW

A small handful of RCTs into medical marijuana, not just cannabidiol (ie containing THC) - are these also 'no proper study'?

A Study of Sativex for Relief of Spasticity in Subjects With Multiple Sclerosis.

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00711646

Sativex successfully treats neuropathic pain characterised by allodynia: a randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17997224/

A randomised controlled cross-over double-blind pilot study protocol on THC:CBD oromucosal spray efficacy as an add-on therapy for post-stroke spasticity

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/9/e016843

But the medical uses of cannabis are being completely ignored by the pharmaceutical industry, aren't they?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some of these posts. No, OP, there is no truth in it.