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Pharmacies want to keep us sick 🙁 is there ANY truth to this?

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TuscanMum · 26/03/2018 21:10

There’s a lady I know who posts lots of pharmaceutical conspiracies on a regular basis. Things like, they have a vested interest in keeping us sick so as we continue to need their drugs.

The sane part of me says this is rubbish, can’t be allowed, no way.

But a little part of me wonders.🙁

I have a vested interest in this as I’ve an autoimmune disease and keep trying different types of strong medication that haven’t yet worked but Rheumatologist says it’s not cureable and drugs are necessary.

Met a man, just today, who said his wife has lupus but refuses meds and just manages with diet.

I’d be interested to hear what others think or know about this?

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nolongersurprised · 26/03/2018 22:17

Epilepsy isn’t one type of disease either. backscratches where’s your evidence for “not one study” investigating whether cannabis oil cures seizures? That’s not my understanding at all. I’d post some studies but you’d probably think they were fictitious and created by Big Seizure or something

Haffiana · 26/03/2018 22:21

People who believe conspiracy theories are actually profoundly religious. It isn't God that they believe in, but their belief is similarly based on pure Faith, a few stories and a sort of wish for everything to be the result of a secret and unknowable Few who Rule the World.

Conspiracy theories are a religion. Reality has no place in any religion of course.

And those that Believe do it so fervently that nothing will shift their opinion.

Xenophile · 26/03/2018 22:21

The problem with this utter woo bollocks is that in order to believe it you also have to believe that the people who work in drug R&D/"big pharma" either have no relatives and friends, or are happy to watch them die from various cancers and other diseases.

Or that the magic pill has been given to these people, and they've managed to keep their mouths shut ever since.

And that everyone from the clerk who filed the reports at the various world drug administrations to the CEO of whichever pharmaceutical company you're thinking of has hugged this information to themselves for no apparently good reason.

It's not a reasonable belief.

Cancers have always been with us, and always will be with us, the money to be made from the magic pill doesn't stop being made even if you give it to everyone on the planet.

Generally, the same people who believe this also believe that the Earth is flat, that chem trails are an actual thing and that 911 was an inside job.

raisedbyguineapigs · 26/03/2018 22:22

I work with people who work in hospitals. they say they spend all day telling people about diet and preventative medicine to manage their conditions. Most of it falls on deaf ears because people want to be given a magic pill that will cure them without any effort on their part. If they were profiting from big pharma, why bother telling people not to take unnecessary antibiotics for example? The best thing for them would be antibiotic resistance so they could then just pump more and more new and expensive drugs into people that wont work. Its shocking that so many people are willing to believe what some uneducated idiot on the internet spouts about Aloe Vera or whatever and yet are so desparate to dismiss years of research done by people who have dedicated their lives to studying disease and researching and developing cures.

Backscratchesforever · 26/03/2018 22:22
aliasjoey · 26/03/2018 22:22

There have been some cases of pharmaceutical companies deliberately making or keeping people sick (eg. the American Syphilis studies on African Americans)

But those cases are very rare. And someone blew the whistle eventually. And they led to stricter ethical protocols.

It would be very hard to cover up widespread corruption nowadays.

specialsubject · 26/03/2018 22:25

Standard conspiracy theory to babble about big pharma.

File under hard of thinking.

shirt · 26/03/2018 22:26

It’s true in the case of children and ADHD. Big Pharma needs the Ritalin revenue to keep coming through because it finances R&D for other drugs.

IvorHughJarrs · 26/03/2018 22:27

This is so true. GP’s and pharmacists aren’t paid commission. I do think however that due to 99% of patients wanting to be prescribed a pill for every single ailment, no matter how tiny, they get used to dishing out tablets. One GP said to me that most people would be better off if they cut meds down to what they absolutely couldn’t survive without - that often people take one thing, then get side effects so take a tablet for those, etc etc.
People now will not accept any discomfort and expect a pill to alleviate it rather than make any effort with lifestyle, diet, etc

Whisky2014 · 26/03/2018 22:30

Backscratches lets say it did cure her cancer and let's say it is legalised. Can you not think of anything going wrong doing that? How long term effects of using it can change someone and more likely than not send their life into a downward spiral ensuring poor mental health, low quality of life and then probably gaining some diseases of their own?
Just because one person says it, doesn't means it's true. And if it was...it doesn't mean it's right for everyone else.
Please dont spend the rest of your life watching daytime tv and believing everything you see on this morning. Jesus Christ

www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html

anneoneill · 26/03/2018 22:31

@backscratchforever Where's the doctor?

Creambun2 · 26/03/2018 22:33

@Backscratchesforever

With respect, what rubbish - please show us any links to serious, peer reviewed, scientific research or clinical trials that show that cannabis cures cancer. You can't as they don't exist. Who told you this? Was it it a weed dealer?

Whisky2014 · 26/03/2018 22:34

Backscratcher is an idiot.

littlebillie · 26/03/2018 22:36

I think the ideal is management not cure. The cure can often kill in more serious cancers

Tara336 · 26/03/2018 22:36

Makes no sense to me tbh. If they found a cure for anything it would be worth a fortune to drugs companies. Remember a cure doesn’t mean no one will ever get the illness in question again! There will always be newly diagnosed customers

Momo18 · 26/03/2018 22:38

I believe this, it's the reason the DSM exists too. I mean your classed as having a major depressive disorders if you grieve for longer then I think two weeks these days.

Also if I goto Doctors for example headaches, nobody suggests I may be dehydrated or have low magnesium, it's almost always something prescribed. I believe we are misled a lot.

Creambun2 · 26/03/2018 22:39

Yeah this guy sounds like a real clinical expert in treating cancer Hmm

www.newa.expert/experts/mr-matthew-atha/drug-abuse-research-consultancy/liverpool/E3094

Xenophile · 26/03/2018 22:42

I mean your classed as having a major depressive disorders if you grieve for longer then I think two weeks these days.

Rubbish.

Catsandkids78 · 26/03/2018 23:09

Im suggesting watching a documentary rather than linking to several academic journals around the benefits of fasting that many people won’t have access to .

There are also several interesting studies around fasting / chemo conducted on rats in the USA and some patients are choosing to take this approach themselves with good results as they cannot conduct trials on this at the moment for a myriad of complex reasons .

Catsandkids78 · 26/03/2018 23:11
  • human trials
confuddledconfudle · 26/03/2018 23:20

@Catsandkids78 it is also true that exercise and healthy eating has shown a massive impact on cancer recovery and reducing the reoccurrence chances. Especially breast cancer. Fasting has also shown to be beneficial, although more research is needed (I work in a medical field)

However that does not mean pharma are hiding some magic cure.

Drs are now telling their patients about health lifestyle but not many people listen to that. We all know to eat well and exercise - that is not some hidden secret.

Moviestar · 26/03/2018 23:21

Can I just point out that Pharmacies and Pharmacists are completely different enteties from the pharmaceutical industry and "Big Pharma" and shouldn't be lumped in together.
The OPS original question is "are pharmacies keeping us sick".
No they are not.

Catsandkids78 · 26/03/2018 23:23

I don’t think they are hiding anything but I think people don’t realize the sheer weight of lifestyle and diet on their body sadly .

I also have read some interesting research doing my own reading from what was mentioned on the science of fast doc , purely noting down doctors etc and pulling journals up .

Fascinating stuff

Puffycat · 26/03/2018 23:27

🎼paranoiaaaaaaaaaaa🎼🎧🎤🎹that’s para para para 🎹🎧paranoia!!!!

bananafish81 · 26/03/2018 23:38

I have fibromyalgia so I do NEED pain relief, it is just nothing helps me enough so I can walked. I am stuck in a mobility scooter instead.

Tramadol is a very effective opioid pain med. May not be the best treatment for a condition where opioids aren't indicated

Opioids help my chronic pain from a spinal injury

They do little for my hypermobility pain, because that's not a condition where opioids are likely to make much difference

I'm sorry they didn't help your fibromyalgia. Doesn't mean that they're not indicated for those types of pain where they're effective.

In any case, pain medication is only one part of a pain management regimen.

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