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stupid fight about prosecco

162 replies

TotHappy · 23/03/2018 10:17

But not really about prosecco i guess.
I'm going away this weekend with old friends, I'm driving while they're training so I've got all the food and drink and they're saying me back. The money for this weekend has come out of payment for some overtime i did in the last couple of months - so over and above my regular wage. Dh and i pool our wages and after all bills are deducted, split the remainder 3 ways - the usual result is £150 each as spending money plus £100 joint 'fun money' to do things together or as a family.
When i got this extra lump of cash we discussed what to do, i said i wanted to do this weekend and he agreed (enthusiastically). He got a similar amount recently (unexpected inheritance) and spent some of it on paint and other stuff to decorate the kitchen - his,idea, his choice, i actually didn't know about it until he'd started. I assume the rest went into his general spending money.

Last night i picked him up from a,meeting and after dinner he asked if we had any wine, i said no, he said can i have one from your stash (for the weekend), i said no, it's for the weekend. He said, you could replace it tomorrow? And i said 'if i wanted to go shopping tomorrow (on the way there), i wouldn't have gone today! Bit rude, admittedly, i was stressed out about packing etc I'm afraid.

Later on he said he was really angry at,being told 'no' like that. He said a lot of things, over and over, but the general gist is that its how you would speak to a junior at work, and he didn't like coming home from a day at work, followed by another stressful meeting to be just told 'no, you can't have that' about something we do have . This escalated to a huge row all about finances in general and me being controlling. The back story here is - he is shit with money and,has,been since we married, so a few years,ago we moved all the direct debits etc to my bank account, every month he pays his wages over to me minus his spending share. I recognise that i am quite controlling of our money, because i worry so much about him pissing it all up the wall, but i dispute his argument here that the weekend prosecco was bought with 'his' money. It didn't come out of the family budget, i bought it on cc, will be partly reimbursed by friends and pay the rest off when my overtime comes in at end of the month. He says if I'd asked him, he would have agreed in a heartbeat and gone out to replace today. He agreed i have a 'right' to say no but says,he never would to me.
I feel he's implying I should say,yes to whatever he asks, even if inconvenient and i think, why? To me it was just a casual request and a casual denial. Nothing stopping him going out to buy some for himself. As it was he went ahead and opened it anyway so i had to drive out at 10pm and replace it as i really didn't want to stop today.
He agreed in the argument that.i am right 'within the letter of the law' but clearly felt i was,being a tight, selfish bitch. I feel that if you ask for a favour/gift and are then outraged that its refused, then you weren't really asking but demanding, and he's basically implying that whatever he asks for, i have to give him if i love him properly.

All this over fucking prosecco!!!! What,do you think? Am i just being tight and selfish? Our views are so totally opposed that i felt genuinely bewildered during the row and need some perspective.

OP posts:
Lacucuracha · 23/03/2018 15:26

The fucker didn't even replace the wine, did he?

People are failing to understand that the wine did not belong to OP. It belonged to the group.

I would be seriously fucked off if I had got myself organised like that and the fucker ruined my plans. Who wants to go to the supermarket at 10pm?! The twat didn't go did he?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/03/2018 15:27

someone who can't a no and then escalates as retaliation, character assassinating someone, is verbally abusive. That's not OK. You're entitled to say no. You're not responsible for his feelings - he is - however he's trying to shame you into making you change your mind - this is all emotional abuse. I'd get in touch with an organisation that understands Coercive Control and get some education and then decide if he's worth staying with - I would't.

Rachie1973 · 23/03/2018 15:32

The whole wine argument is second to the fact she said 'No' and he did it anyway.

That's way off kilter.

Rachie1973 · 23/03/2018 15:34

agbnb

I think this thread is really about people who plan VS people who don't.

I don't, I'm terribly disorganised but it would never occur to me to take something that didn't belong to me.

It's the fact he took it anyway I can't wrap my head round. So wrong on so many levels.

peacheachpearplum · 23/03/2018 15:41

The whole wine argument is second to the fact she said 'No' and he did it anyway. Isn't it second to the fact that her husband had a bad day, asked her for some wine that was sitting there and she said no?

Rachie1973 · 23/03/2018 15:46

peacheachpearplum
The whole wine argument is second to the fact she said 'No' and he did it anyway.
Isn't it second to the fact that her husband had a bad day, asked her for some wine that was sitting there and she said no?

No. He could have got his own wine if he wanted it. Why is it HER job to ensure his comfort? Its a very chauvinistic attitude. How do you know OP hadn't had a stressful day?

As we get told a lot on the boards. 'No is a complete sentence'

Do you think he did the right thing taking it anyway?

ChameleonsInCarsGettingCoffee · 23/03/2018 15:56

People have surprisingly strong opinions about access to prosecco.

😂

peacheachpearplum · 23/03/2018 15:57

No it isn't right taking it but I think it says something about a relationship if one of you has had a bad day and you wouldn't let them have it, as I said before prosecco wouldn't bother me but if I was feeling down and realised the only chocolate in the house "belonged" to my husband I would be upset if he wouldn't let me have some and if it was the other way round I wouldn't hesitate. It isn't as if she wasn't going out the next day. How long would it take to buy a bottle of wine? I guess some people have different relationships.

lynmilne65 · 23/03/2018 16:00

spunked ????Dear God Hmm

BelleandBeast · 23/03/2018 16:06

I'd have been furious - you planned ahead, didn't want to shop again, he asked, was refused, with good reason, opened the bottle anyway and you had to go out. Why couldn't he go out and get a bottle?

Petulant man-child.

Trinity66 · 23/03/2018 16:07

People have surprisingly strong opinions about access to prosecco.

mmmm Prosecco

Wellfuckmeinbothears · 23/03/2018 16:13

I think YABU. You think he drinks too much, does he or is that because you are controlling and whatever you deem as too much makes him an addict?

You sound like an anal planner and that would drive me mad. My dh happily goes out of his way for me all the time and vice versa. We’re a team.

You sound controlling and mean.

deadringer · 23/03/2018 16:14

I would have told him to fuck off and get his own wine. But then my dh wouldn't have asked for it in those circumstances, he would have got his own or done without. Yanbu

CalmBeforeTheWave · 23/03/2018 16:25

This is why dogs are so much easier!

MyBrilliantDisguise · 23/03/2018 16:30

Oh come on, everyone. When people replace the chocolate oranges five times at Christmas, or buy a second Easter egg because they've eaten the first, everyone's quite happy with that. Is this that different?

Trinity66 · 23/03/2018 16:40

Oh come on, everyone. When people replace the chocolate oranges five times at Christmas, or buy a second Easter egg because they've eaten the first, everyone's quite happy with that. Is this that different?

such a weird bunch of responses over a bottle of wine

coffeeforone · 23/03/2018 16:52

I would even just later explain to my friends that sorry, we are one short because we drank a bottle and I couldn't replace for x reason!

If I were your friend, I would struggle to not judge you.

The first option would be to replace it if possible obviously! I'm just thinking if I didn't get the chance for some reason my friends definitely wouldn't mind (i.e. the close group of friends that i had in mind when posting).

If I'd organised for a group of people i didn't know well enough, then of course I would go well out of my way to replace. I wouldn't want be seen as taking something that didn't belong to me. Smile

TotHappy · 23/03/2018 17:03

We'll as everyone's said it's clearly about more than the wine.
I think it's easy to see 'flags' of abusive relationships on both sides if you look, I'm controlling, he's verbally abusive etc... But i dont think that's what's going on here. I think this thread has shown me more of his perspective, which is what i wanted. It's a split between those of us who like to plan and like to feel in control of our own lives and those who are more spontaneous. I am probably hard work to live with for the second type and he's hard work to love with for me, as the first type. But it shouldn't have escalated to a row and that's what we need to continue to work on, our respect for each other's differences. I think. Obviously neither of us planned to have a huge row over prosecco, or anything else, we wanted a nice evening together. So i need to work on communication. Hmmmmmm.

OP posts:
Trinity66 · 23/03/2018 17:05

Obviously neither of us planned to have a huge row over prosecco, or anything else, we wanted a nice evening together. So i need to work on communication

Wouldn't it have been much nicer with a glass of prosecco? Grin

KinkyAfro · 23/03/2018 17:21

That's the point though peach it didn't belong to op!

diddl · 23/03/2018 17:22

"I would have told him to fuck off and get his own wine. But then my dh wouldn't have asked for it in those circumstances, "

Exactly!

It wasn't Op's wine to give (imo) & there was nothing to stop him getting his own wine.

It shouldn't have escalated as it did, but what's the point of asking & then taking no fucking notice?

peacheachpearplum · 23/03/2018 17:24

That's the point though peach it didn't belong to op! It did, she bought it, she paid for it, she expects friends to reimburse her. Until they pay it is hers.

peacheachpearplum · 23/03/2018 17:25

TotHappy you sound like you have alot of insight into the issues.

peacheachpearplum · 23/03/2018 17:27

Oh come on, everyone. When people replace the chocolate oranges five times at Christmas, or buy a second Easter egg because they've eaten the first, everyone's quite happy with that. Is this that different? Surely chocolate is much more important than prosecco?

Trinity66 · 23/03/2018 17:28

Surely chocolate is much more important than prosecco?

Nooooooooo