To only pay cleaner for what she worked

[confuddledconfudle]

I am not sure if I Abu or not.

I've hired a new cleaner. She came once, house looked good. Next week she couldn't make it due to snow. I still paid her for this week. The week after she cleaned but I noticed she had just cleaned round things and there were crumbs baby had left under hallway table.
So getting to this week, I happened to be at home. She is hired to do 2 hours. She arrived at 11.45, I went out at 12. Before I left I asked if she ever had any left over time could she clean cupboard doors and windows.
After I left I realised I hadn't left money out for her so I did what I needed to do and rushed home. I was home for 13:20 and she was gone. I phoned her and apologised for forgetting to leave out the money and how can I get it to her. Explained I had rushed home trying to get her before she left. She said she left about 10 minutes ago. She asked me to do bank transfer or it could wait until next week. Cupboard doors and windows are not cleaned.

I then messaged her asking if she could confirm she was only there for an hour and a half (11.45-13.10). She said she didn't know but was there until after 1 and I could only pay her for the hour and a half if I wanted.

AIBU to only pay her for an hr and a half?

Elton. Your 'let’s look at it another way’ is exactly the same way as you were looking at it before

and it’s still just as ridiculous 😂

AIBU: I went to my cleaning job today. My payment was supposed to be left in cash. I worked for an hour and a half and noticed my employer had not left payment as agreed. She had not contacted me in the hour since she’d left. WIBU to go home and not go back to complete the job until I was paid?
YABU unless your employer specifically stated that the money would be left at the very start of your shift. Most (id imagine 99.99% of cleaners) are paid in arrears. So until you have finished your shift and no money has been left for you to collect at that moment you dont actually have any complaint. And on top of that you are very entitled/bizzare thinking you should be paid before you have completed your working shift.

AIBU: I went to my cleaning job today. My payment was supposed to be left in cash. I worked for an hour and a half and noticed my employer had not left payment as agreed. She had not contacted me in the hour since she’d left. WIBU to go home and not go back to complete the job until I was paid?

YABU because you dont get paid to the END of your shift - why didnt you wait to see if she comes back before the END of your shift? BTW You forgot to mention she paid you last week even when you didnt make it due to snow...

fucking hell, its like arguing with stupid, they beat you down with experience

but if the cleaner stayed for the time she was meant to, the money would have been there

Elton, are you the cleaner or just a random cunt?
Why would you call her scum? Her shift wasn't over.

Elton calling the OP scum is bang out of order. You're sounding deranged.

Unless you were the cleaner?

Elton unless the OP had agreed with her cleaner that her wages would be physically left out when she arrived then the OP did nothing wrong.

And OP. If you employ somebody on the cheap and pay them cash without checking their immigration status or paying a premium to include tax, national insurance or a pension then you get what you pay for.

Where precisely is your evidence for any of that, Elton? Or did you by any chance just make it up?

Elton: two weeks ago, OP didn't leave money for the cleaner because the cleaner didn't come in at all, but she nevertheless ensured that the cleaner was paid. Why would the cleaner assume she wasn't going to be paid this time round?

If you contract somebody for work pay them as agreed.

If you contract with someone to work for them in return for pay, do the work as agreed. How hard is that to work out?

This thread is so funny, I’m actually cringing 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

But the op didnt state when she was gonna leave the cash be it at the start or the end of the shift. In theory, if you are threatening to walk out of your job youd best make sure that you are 100% right in your understanding, and have it on paper as well, otherwise you are being unreasonable. Money being left and money being available are two different things. You are arguing that the money should have been available at the start of the shift (and i dont know where you are getting that from, can you explain that). I presume that is not what was agreed (and perhaps the op could verify that). Myself and everyone else is saying that the money should have been left (and therefore made available) at the end of the shift. It doesnt matter when the money is left as long as it is available for the cleaner at the end of the shift. Ultimately in your scenario a cleaner would still be UR to walk out mid shift due to being over pedantic. Op, id give cleaner one more chance, if only to have a stronger case for sacking the CF.

Hahahahhaha surely @Eltonjohnssyrup is the cleaner? Hence the anger. No one could get that passionate about something that happened between two
Strangers on the internet.

I would find someone else I think. If she was concerned about the money surely she would have just said "I left because I realised you hadn't paid" rather than wanting to sound flakey and like she didn't even know how long she worked

Fucking hell elton you're a mad cunt. Go away hun

Elton. You aren’t making sense and are being unnecessarily aggressive and unpleasant. I can’t tell if you are just doing this for fun or if you genuinely believe what you are saying is true but either way it’s pathetic.

Reckon someone is playing games here .

Fired!

I'm thinking Elton is the cleaner mentioned in OP original post? Only option I can fathom at the moment.
OP get rid and look for someone else!

Elton - quit it with the foul mysogenistic language, as well as referring to the op as scum. It's really not called for. While you're at it, can I recommend a lie down in a dark room....

She’s working on the assumption that cleaners are poorly paid, lowly workers. All the cleaners I know are earning in access of £12.50 an hour, able to work around their children’s school hours and have professional husbands. They are certainly not on the bread line.

Oh dear everyone, Elton sure does have a bee in her bonnet - there is no arguing with stupid so I wouldn't even bother.

I don't think Elton is the cleaner as actually my cleaner was very reasonable in her response. I think she is a random mad one who is looking for people to argue with. So I for one am ignoring and I suggest that we all stop so that she isn't succeeding in her agenda of getting a rise out of people.

Thanks for everyone's input - it has been very helpful and give me the confidence that Ianbu

I think you have been more than reasonable op.
You called her when you realised you had forgotten to leave money out and then rushed home but she clocked off early.
You could even argue you paid in advance (snow week.) I’m sure it wasn’t agreed you would pay a self employed woman for absence. Being self employed doesn’t work like that. Those benefits are for the employed. You paid her out of the goodness of your heart.
The only thing I would say is that I probably wouldn’t have sent a text before getting my key back.
As for the raving lunatic on this thread...