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AIBU that I'm annoyed the college makes my dd wear rainbow lanyard?

217 replies

thehusbandswife · 07/03/2018 13:04

My dd started at sixth form last September and despite there being no uniform as such,the students have to wear their id badges on a rainbow lanyard.I am all for inclusion and diversity but feel angry that the college enforce such political opinions on their students and wondered what had happened to freedom of choice.Then last month during tutorial they devoted a whole hour teaching the students what it meant to be lbgqt as well as what pan sexual,asexual gender neutral is. AIBU to feel that there are far more pressing things to teach the students rather than these issues.On top of this certain teachers feel obliged to air their own political opinions,deeming anyone who disagreed with them re Brexit,general election as "uneducated"
It has been 20 years or so since I was at college when the focus was on education and political opinion/persuasions were not mentioned.Is this the norm these days in Sixth form education?

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DieWinteresse · 08/03/2018 00:01

ILoveRuby 100 per cent agree. It should be a choice for students if they want to support LGBT and wear the lanyard. What about Muslim students? Maybe they do not feel they can support something their religion disagrees with?

SilverBirchTree · 08/03/2018 00:35

YABU and fairly homophobic IMO

It’s fortunate your daughter is exposed to more inclusive and kind POV at school.

Userplusnumbers · 08/03/2018 00:38

I wonder if your daughter like the lanyard, wants to support her lgbt friends by wearing it, but knowing you'd blow it out of all proportion she told you it was compulsory. Honestly OP, you seem homophobic.

Arealhumanbeing · 08/03/2018 01:26

There's a real correlation between anti-pc posts and lack of punctuation, isn't there? I guess it's to convey the sense of hurried innocence: 'I'm surprised and upset about this. I've never thought about this before - because I'm just an ordinary person, going about my ordinary business. I have to post in a stream-of-consciousness fashion because these entirely new thoughts are just crowding in on me and the novelty of them impels me to communicate them immediately.'

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InsomniacAnonymous · 08/03/2018 01:50

On a lighter note, I really liked these pedestrian crossings on my last holiday abroad. Who knows where these rainbow crossings are?

AIBU that I'm annoyed the college makes my dd wear rainbow lanyard?
Slapdasherie · 08/03/2018 02:11

I'm not sure about that rainbow crossing, but Sydney did have some around the time of the Mardi Gras a few years ago.

Until the Roads Minister ordered them covered by asphalt for safety reasons.

The Roads Minister was Mr Duncan Gay.

Kokeshi123 · 08/03/2018 02:42

They should not be forcing political opinions onto students. Slippery slopes and all that.

And don't even get me started on the trans thing and the stupid multiple identities popping up all over the place (pansexual, WTF).

staySeated · 08/03/2018 06:10

Go on. Get started. Who knows, it might be interesting!

What's wrong with 'pansexual'?

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 08/03/2018 06:15

I’m hugely for LGBT rights and education but actually think YANBU.

You can’t “force” everyone to think the same way and I think it’s up to an individual to decide where they stand on the matter. For example, I am very supportive of trans rights but many people worry about the effect on women’s rights.

Anybody who decrees another’s political views as “uneducated” should not be in a teaching position.

Anasnake · 08/03/2018 06:18

Gf

feathermucker · 08/03/2018 06:24

I'm a school governor. The school has specific lanyards so that the different lanyard-holders are easily distinguishable and stand out e.g. blue for staff, orange for governors, red for senior leadership team and a bright colour for students who wear them.

Plus; an hour? Hardly reason to feel annoyed or angry. They're being educated about an issue that is becoming increasingly prevalent in society and it's better to be armed with awareness than remain ignotamy of the facts, surely?

SharronNeedles · 08/03/2018 06:30

You know the LGBT community don't own all rainbows don't you?

leghairdontcare · 08/03/2018 07:34

We had some rainbow lanyards in our college for LGBT history month. They're not compulsory but the students absolutely loved them. We couldn't keep up with demand.

PlaymobilPirate · 08/03/2018 07:40

Newcastle College by any chance? Most students love them - you're being silly.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 08/03/2018 07:45

Well... I'm a lesbian & some of the people where I work do have rainbow lanyards for the official union LGBT+ network.

Me? No. I'm just so disillusioned by the whole transactivist thing and the mere sound of "LGBT" or "gender" makes my teeth itch so much that I don't dare go anywhere near that group in case I explode. Maybe they're different but in my current experience LGBT has fuck all to do with lesbians.

StickThatInYourPipe · 08/03/2018 07:47

I can’t believe they taught them about LGBTQ rights and people?

Don’t they know ‘The Gay’ is infectious?

InHibernationTilISummer · 08/03/2018 08:54

EmpressOfJurisfiction I was about to come on to say the some thing.

I've marched in countless Pride marches, proudly waving the Rainbow flag, with Rainbow flags drawn on my face etc. There is no way I would want to be associated with any of this now.

In some ways, I think maybe we should reclaim it and keep using it as it was our flag - like some non-racists say that they should reclaim the Union Jack rather than just let it be co-opted by the BNP et al and used as a racist symbol. But yes I just have a visceral reaction against the rainbow flag and the words 'LGBT' now, despite having been a member - and worked to support - the LGBT community since I was in my teens. And I know when I see that flag or hear those words it is never about lesbians - or definitely not in a good way.

How did we end up in a group with people who believe homosexuality is morally wrong and that lesbian needs to be 're-educated' to like penis? (That's before you even discuss the young lesbians they are persuading to undergo physical conversion therapy to become straight men.) Sometimes I think we'd have been better off going into a coalition with the Westboro Baptist Church - at least all they do is wave a few placards around. This movement is tearing apart our community, denying our boundaries and destroying young lesbians' health and bodies.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 08/03/2018 09:11

InHibernation Flowers

If I associate the LGBT rainbow with anything nowadays, it's misogyny & lesbophobia.

Jog22 · 08/03/2018 09:20

The sixth form are obviously just preparing her for university life. She might come to Bristol University so she needs to know that what she's not allowed to talk about.

"After a short break, the simmering tension came to a head. Student Izzy Posen spoke against the anti-TERF motion, boldly proclaiming their right to describe a person with a penis as a man. Almost immediately, Posen was whisked off stage for violating the AMM code of conduct to cries of “You’re a bigot!”

thetab.com/uk/bristol/2018/03/02/bristol-students-vote-to-no-platform-trans-exclusionary-feminists-in-heated-annual-members-meeting-32655

Headofthehive55 · 08/03/2018 09:21

No I wouldn't wear a rainbow lanyard. I prefer a cath kidson one myself. But then I'm quite anti being told what to do anyway!

I think the teachers should stick to academic subjects in sixth form. That is why you are there.

strawberrysparkle · 08/03/2018 09:21

Are you offended when it rains and there's a rainbow in the sky?

Yes you are unreasonable

Pinkvoid · 08/03/2018 09:23

Makes sense to use something bright like this to differentiate between staff and students imo.

I don’t see LGBT rights as a ‘political issue’ tbh, or at least it shouldn’t be... it’s just basic human rights. You sound fairly bigoted.

jaimelannistersgoldenhand · 08/03/2018 09:33

My son is in y12 and has to do a Life Skills sort of class each week. One session was about gender fluidity but they did other sessions like anxiety, personal finance, sexual health and car maintenance so very varied. His school wear green lanyards but it hasn't made him more prone to environmentalism.

jaimelannistersgoldenhand · 08/03/2018 09:36

If it was that easy to make kids gay, I'd be asking the school to programme my child to study more instead. 😛

blastomama · 08/03/2018 13:34

I can’t believe they taught them about LGBTQ rights and people?Don’t they know ‘The Gay’ is infectious?

These comments are not funny but they are offensive.

All of you going on like this, have you not been reading mn on the many issues with the T bit of LGBTQ? Are none of you the slightest bit concerned about the kind of agenda that is being pushed on children regarding Trans issues? Children are being told that they can transition from one sex to another. They are being told that men are women, they are being told that womens rights are secondary to men who identify as womens rights.
This isn't amusing stuff. This is a real problem. Children are being indoctrinated with dangerous messages.