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AIBU not to host Nephew

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MelCK · 06/03/2018 13:57

Last week DH's nephew, his sister's son, aged 11, who lives abroad, sent DH a voice message on whatsapp using his mother's account: "Uncle I am traveling to London this summer, can I order anything I like from the air hostess. when I fly as an unaccompanied child?"

I overheard this as DH played the message on speaker.

We have two boys 5 and 7, and no immediate family nearby.

Unbeknown to me DH then made arrangements to make a detour during his business trip in July to pick up his nephew and fly with him to London on the last leg.

When he told me about his itinerary I plainly said no, please don't bring anyone back, I have my hands full with our two boys, which DH helps very little.

DH is displeased but agreed, asked his sister not to make travel arrangements for her son via Whatsapp. She replied: Fine if he is not welcomed.

Before DSIL's family moved abroad they lived on the same street three houses away, DH's nephew used to come and play everyday at 6pm after his dinner, unaccompanied, and stay till 7. i made the point to stop his daily play visits when my 2nd son was born, too much work for me.

In the five years of living on the same street my older son was allowed into her house to play about four times. Each time accompanied by DH. I often overheard the kids' conversation when DS asked if he would go to nephew's house to play the toys he was talking about, and nephew replying a stern No. Many times we walked him back to the door of his house and DS asked Can I go in? And nephew stood in front of him and said No, looking alarmed.

DSIL is often aloof, won't even make eye contact let alone hello or thank you.

DH would always say: yeah she is a bit like that. And think nothing of it. I am just annoyed. Nephew is Not Welcomed? What do I say? It's in our family Whatsapp group

OP posts:
NoSquirrels · 06/03/2018 14:39

OK, well your issues with your DH and not being a full-on dad to his own DC are one thing, DN is another.

It's of course totally unreasonable to expect that an 11 year old boy can just appear unaccompanied on your doorstep in the summer. So YANBU to say no if it hasn't been discussed.

But ... it sounds like this little boy has a bit of a shit time with his parents. So the kind thing would be to welcome him for a bit, get your DH to take time off work to spend with all 3 boys, and set up the limits of when and how long you will host him for, along with some financial contribution from your SIL for the time he's with you.

Fishface77 · 06/03/2018 14:45

Your DH sounds awful!
And your sil doesn’t sound much better.
Stand your ground and tell your DH that when he can look after his kids then he can consider having a visitor but until he pulls his weight it’ll be a no.
Why do you let him get away with doing so little?

EllieMe · 06/03/2018 14:47

YANBU. If your children weren't welcome at her house how on earth does she expect you to welcome her son?

greenlynx · 06/03/2018 14:48

I think you are absolutely right.
My DH and I have Nephews and nieces and love them dearly. The only way DH will agree for someone to come without asking me first , it's medical emergency or something similar and then he will go straight to me to discuss this. I will do the same.
Visits will go ahead only after joint discussion. However desirable visit might be , the time might be inconvenient !

LagunaBubbles · 06/03/2018 14:50

This isnt about your nephew at all. Its about how useless your DH is at being a parent.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/03/2018 14:55

It sounds as if the boy doesn’t have a great home life. Why else would the situation have arisen in the first place. An 11 yo should be able to entertain the younger children. You don’t know what he’s like now. He should be helpful at tidying up. He would be one of the family, not a guest. His coming could be a blessing. Or a disaster obvs. You have to do what is right for you. Unless he’s hugely unkind/demanding I feel a bit sorry for him.

greenlynx · 06/03/2018 14:56

Do nephews and nieces from your side visit you often and freely? If so, could it give your husband's family sort of expectations?

ladybirdsarelovely33 · 06/03/2018 14:58

You need to put down some boundaries OP with your nephew/ sil and also have a talk to your husband as to what you would like help with at home. You sound tired and I don't blame you for wanting to say no.

Kochicoo · 06/03/2018 15:01

YANBU. Your sil is trying it on and it doesn't sound like she'd ever return the favour. If having your nephew would be easy I might just do it but it doesn't sound like it will be so no way. Don't feel bad about it at all. Your sil certainly wasn't thinking of you when she got her son to wsapp your DH.

Ruffian · 06/03/2018 15:03

Feel sorry for your DN, I expect he was looking forward to a nice break with you and he's old enough to be a help to you with your dc but it was massively high-handed of you SIL to make arrangements without asking you so YANBU

ASimpleLampoon · 06/03/2018 15:04

Let's be realistic. If DN comes to visit, OP's DH is not going to be helping out, the SIL is not going to be giving her any type of payment, and will probably not even help with the expenses.

DH and SIL think it's OK to treat OP like a mug.

It's a pity for the cousins who will miss out, of course it is, but OP shouldn't accept being treated like a doormat, and if the fallout from her standing up for herself is that the cousins miss out on each others' company, so be it, it wasn't OP who caused it!

OP you sound lovely and kind and welcoming, but don't be taken for a ride any more, you've done enough.

invitroveritas · 06/03/2018 15:21

SIL should have a nanny and stop using you for babysitting. DH should entirely butt out since he does nothing useful to help you.

Butteredparsn1ps · 06/03/2018 15:21

Are there any cultural expectations that are relevant to this OP?

I'm afraid I really can't get my head around a DH who invites anyone for -
what sounds like - an extended stay in a family home without discussing it first. What made your DH think it was OK to do this?

MiddleClassProblem · 06/03/2018 15:44

DH used to take nephew on day trips to the zoo etc with our children very often

So he does do some parenting. But maybe is the issue he’s just doing the fun bits? (Although a day out with 3 kids solo would be shit for me after the first 2 hours Grin)

It sounds like SIL had a kid to have a kid rather than any form of parenting.

TriKitGirl · 06/03/2018 16:14

Posts like this make me really sad. The only people who lose out here are the boys who are all cousins together and won't know each other as they grow up. I used to spend a couple of weeks a year with my cousins and had the BEST time. I am so grateful for those days.

Having three boys instead of two for a couple of weeks isn't really that much harder work, plus the boys will all play together and maybe give you some free time. The only reason I can see that you don't want the nephew to stay is to spite your sister in law and make the point that you weren't asked first. That can't bring about any good feeling between you and your DH.

I would say let it happen this year, OP; tell your DH that anything like this must be pre-agreed in future, and maybe you can even send one or both of your boys over to her another year.

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 06/03/2018 16:17

YANBU at all. I don’t see why OP should be happy to host a kid at no notice because it’s the nice thing to do. The nice thing to do is for her husband to actually talk to her about it, prioritise spending time with his own kids and not his sisters.

Shutupanddance1 · 06/03/2018 16:20

If I was you, I wouldn’t take it.

Actually as your ‘D’H has decided to take time off, I’d leave him to it. Him and 3 boys. I’d leave every morning at 8am and wouldn’t arse myself to go back until after dinner time. Fuck that. You are not an unpaid childminder.

Hillarious · 06/03/2018 16:30

I think TriKitGirl is right. I treat my niece and nephew as my own. Welcome them into my home without question, but I don't "host" them, I expect them to muck in with everyone else and treat them same as my own children. I had great summer holidays staying with my aunt and uncle and younger cousins. We did brilliant things together, but I was expected to help my aunt out looking after the children, who were 8 years younger than me. Have a heart OP. Welcome your nephew, but lay down your expectations of him for the visit from the start.

Trinity66 · 06/03/2018 16:32

why should she be the one left looking after someone elses child though?

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 06/03/2018 16:37

If you don't want your nephew to visit, then don't. But don't let the reason be due to the resentment you feel towards your Sil. Your husband has agreed to take off, to your resentment, but don't punish the child for the adults behaviour.

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 06/03/2018 16:37

*take time off

Fishface77 · 06/03/2018 16:43

But op doesn’t want the nephew to visit. That’s the point.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 06/03/2018 16:49

Just tell them you won't be there OP as you're all going away for a weekend. To stay with your parents. Or you're going on a spa weekend with friends/family and leave the kids with DH.

DSIL and DH are taking the piss.

lakeshoreliving · 06/03/2018 16:56

Not sure any of the adults in this situation are behaving that well.
DC shouldn't be invited to your house without you being involved in the desicion.
SIL shouldn't have just assumed that she could send a DC over to you, you could have been anywhere.
DH shouldn't have made plans without discussing it with you.
But I'm not sure why you would have such an issue with DN staying with you, extended family could be great for your DC, ours really like their cousins even though we are spread throughout the world and don't get to meet up much. One extra DC isn't that much extra work at that age.

Namesarehard · 06/03/2018 17:04

I feel sorry for the nephew in all of this. His parents are trying to palm him off and his auntie doesn't want him. Pity.
As he's moved away maybe your husband wants to see him. It is his nephew. It's not the boys fault his mother didn't ask.

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