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To ask why the hell energy companies keep desperately trying to push SMART METERS?

244 replies

Peekaboo3 · 02/03/2018 20:51

Just that.

Why?

Hell will freeze over before I have them.

My energy provider has sent me a letter saying ...

'We are now ready to install your smart meters. Just one phone call, and we will install the meters at your convenience yada yada.'

With the way they've worded it, it sounds almost like you have no choice.

We do have a choice of course. And my choice is no.

It is NOT compulsory. So they can piss off bugging me.

But WHY do they keep pushing these bloody things?

WHY?

OP posts:
FucksakeCuntingFuckingTwats · 02/03/2018 21:21

I'm with edf and called up to query getting one. They basically said na they are crap most of our emergency call outs are cause of issues with their smart meter Hmm

gamerchick · 02/03/2018 21:22

Edf are on my case as well. One phone call I said I didn’t want one and the call handler got really stroppy with me demanding to know why Hmm I’ve always praised their customer service so it took me aback a bit.

I said I don’t want one until they make me. I want to know more first.

The family has been told I don’t want one fitted in case they just arrive one day with a pretend appointment or something.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 02/03/2018 21:22

We decided to get a smart meter

Booked it in, dh took a bit of time off

And the man they sent round said they were a dreadful idea and virtually refused to fit it

So we left it...he did say to get one of the 'new' ones later

NoodlesLivesHere · 02/03/2018 21:22

As PP said the government has mandated that the energy companies have until 2020 to roll out SMART meters.

They will be fined of they don't do it so are using every trick in the book to make it happen. As fines ultimately get passed onto consumers it's self-defeating not to agree to installation in the long term, however I'm holding out for the next generation being rolled out that are compatible with multiple companies not just your current supplier.

PrimalLass · 02/03/2018 21:22

Is it just a straight swap? I can only be bothered with the upheaval if it means they move the electricity meter outside.

orangesticker · 02/03/2018 21:22

The energy companies have to have used every reasonable endeavour to convince people - even the sceptical ones that they should have a smart meter by 2020, if you don't want one they still have to prove that they have tried to convince you and educate you on the benefits. The energy companies have no choice.
If you don't like it complain to the government.

Pleasebeafleabite · 02/03/2018 21:24

InsomniacAnonymous

You do pay already gor what you use as you already have a meter Hmm

Loonyluna16 · 02/03/2018 21:27

Because after 2020 it's going to be law that everyone has one so this is why they're installing now.

Pleasebeafleabite · 02/03/2018 21:27

My DM says she doesn’t want a smart meter as it will put her off eg boiling a kettle if she sees how much it costs. I think there is a risk that it could discourage particularly elderly people not to heat their homes sufficiently

StarsBrokenAgain · 02/03/2018 21:28

Told them I didn't want one. Came round anyway. Took one look at my ANCIENT gas meter and were like errrrrrr... Smile

(It is old but there is nothing functionally wrong with it, has been checked, but cannot have a SMART meter)

AnneElliott · 02/03/2018 21:30

I don't want one either. Luckily my energy company are happy to take my say so and haven't pushed it.

Squishysquirmy · 02/03/2018 21:38

They are not being "pushed on us" by the EU.

The EU did require member nations to perform a cost/benefit analysis of rolling out smart meters, and for the UK this analysis suggested that the benefits outweighed the costs.

Why would a government want to roll out smart meters?
Its to do with energy transition, and balancing the national grid...

Nobody knows for sure exactly what our energy system will look like in the future, nor the exact mix of generation we will rely on - technology is changing all the time..
What we can be fairly certain of is that it will be different to what we are used to, and that the energy market will be increasingly decentralised, probably with an increased reliance on intermittent supplies of energy.

Balancing a grid in these circumstances will be much more complicated than it was in the past - an excess of supply can overload the system, whilst not enough supply will cause blackouts/drop in power.

So one of the solutions to this problem is a "smart grid", where information can travel in two directions to help match supply to the demand. Smart meters by themselves will not solve the problem, but they are part of the solution to the technical problem (legislative and economic barriers are more troublesome to overcome).

Energy suppliers want them because the data is helpful for their business.

a pp mentioned gridwatch - it is an interesting website (if a bit geeky). You can see how much we are using and where our energy is coming from live -
gridwatch.co.uk/
Not much solar today!!!

We take the instantaneous supply of energy for granted, but we really shouldn't. We rely on it increasingly for all areas of life, even more than in the past thanks to increasing digitisation etc. Energy security is a BIG issue. This program was broadcast recently and very briefly puts it into perspective quite nicely:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rx4z9

Personally, I am going to get a smart meter but not yet - I am going to wait until they are rolled out properly and are more universal.

Piffpaffpoff · 02/03/2018 21:43

DH works for a major utility provider. He says we will get one over his dead body!

orangesticker · 02/03/2018 21:51

They will make bugger all difference on the settlement of energy until we have further legislation on building a system to process the data - meanwhile Brexit is consuming parliamentary time - so that's not going to happen anytime soon. It's just a massive pain in the arse for the energy companies - but they have to choice.

coconuttella · 02/03/2018 21:51

FFS Op... Isn’t it blindingly obvious! Clearly far more efficient for utility companies to have accurate readings sent to them rather than employ someone to take readings. What’s your problem?

LightastheBreeze · 02/03/2018 21:51

We were with Eon and had an electric smart meter fitted, changed to BG and meter went dumb as expected. Changed back to Eon following year and asked to reinstate meter as smart as we had Eon smart meter from before. Was told it was now dumb even though we back with Eon as we had changed supplier. What a farce.

TemporarySign · 02/03/2018 21:53

I just checked and the 2020 date is a UK target, but the gov.uk site says that we are not legally obliged to accept a smart meter. Just not given much choice after that date. It's all very well going on about how wonderful they are, but it's easy enough to check how much electricity you are using yourself already and the privacy issues are immense.

MsMims · 02/03/2018 21:53

I like mine and find it useful. Turn the heating down if it’s already reached a certain budget for the day. Also, when you change suppliers sometimes they still work in terms of showing your usage in KWh so still helpful in terms of monitoring your usage.

I declined permission for them to monitor my usage in real time.

coconuttella · 02/03/2018 21:54

My DM says she doesn’t want a smart meter as it will put her off eg boiling a kettle if she sees how much it costs. I think there is a risk that it could discourage particularly elderly people not to heat their homes sufficiently

How ridiculous... perhaps we should stop people accessing their bank statements so they don’t stop spending!

Pleasebeafleabite · 02/03/2018 22:00

No need to be rude coconutella she is 79 years old and entitled to her opinion. She has a limited budget and already spends s big proportion of it on energy costs. I’d rather she wasn’t put off keeping warm in winter

And your point makes no sense. Unless when you use a bank card you don’t know the amount you are spending at the point of sale. Which of course you do

Elphame · 02/03/2018 22:02

I'm just ignoring all messages from my provider. They keep trying.... I don't want one and won't have one and there is nothing they can do about it. It will benefit them far more than it will benefit me.

Allthebestnamesareused · 02/03/2018 22:04

I have accurate bills because I can enter my readings online.

I refused because it limits switching providers (currently).

I have heard that they can interfere with Wi-Fi

brownelephant · 02/03/2018 22:07

yanbu
we got a similar letter.
only they didn't ask. they told us it will be installed on xx date and that the householder needs to be on site for the whole day as they come between 7am and 7pm...

lovemylover · 02/03/2018 22:07

I dont want one,i read my own meter and send it in on the computer, i always pay a bit over hat they ask for and love getting a rebate,got £400 last year and the year before,already £200 in credit
I just ignore their text messages

Cathmidston · 02/03/2018 22:10

Watch this regarding the negative health effects of smart meters.
Also the data they will provide once the smart grid is up and running is allegedly worth more than the electricity that will be supplied

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