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Original poster

work told me not to come in today, I was willing to go in, now they are saying I wont be paid

37 replies

ssd · 01/03/2018 19:19

is this even legal, I was willing to go into work, I can get there ok, work contacted me before I started to say we are shut, don't come in...so of course I didn't go, now I'm told I won't be paid for today

bloody hell!!

have been there years and years, part time but never had a contract and this hasn't happened before

what do I do? there's no hr dept, its just one person in charge, who seems to make it up as they go along.

am trying to get a new job but its not easy

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DoneDisappeared · 01/03/2018 19:21

I'm pretty sure that if they tell you not to come in you still get paid.

LondonHereICome · 01/03/2018 19:22

Take it as holiday?

Nightmanagerfan · 01/03/2018 19:22

There’s an article on BBC news today about your rights in bad weather. I’ll find the link but it definitely said if your employer shuts your office they must pay you

DoneDisappeared · 01/03/2018 19:23

www.bbc.com/news/business-43232498

Onedaynamechange · 01/03/2018 19:23

I read an article about this very issue this morning. If they told you not to come in because they were closing they have to pay you.

Nightmanagerfan · 01/03/2018 19:23

Here’s the link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11886185

SlackPanther · 01/03/2018 19:24

"Take it as holiday?"

Why should she? Holiday days cost money if you have to pay childcare during the school holidays.

Original poster
ssd · 01/03/2018 19:24

I don't have any holidays left

I'll look for that link, thanks

what gets me mad is they don't even discuss it, just say no of course you won't get paid Angry

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JessFine · 01/03/2018 19:25

Same here, I was told not to bother and now lose a day's money Sad

My boss is nice, she's thinking of us having to come out, but I can see that it's best not to pay wages if there are no customers.
I felt too embarrassed to mention the money.

Inkspellme · 01/03/2018 19:25

In Ireland - once you're rostered on and available for work you should be paid. This is my situation both now and in last Octobers storm Ophelia. I can't imagine Britain is much different on this but a google search should give you your answer. Then you need to firmly stand your ground with your employer.

oblada · 01/03/2018 19:32

You should be paid unless your employer has a lay off policy and lays you off on that basis. Then you get statutory guaranteed pay (26quids). But here if no contract and no precedent you definitely need to be paid.

Whatshallidonowpeople · 01/03/2018 19:34

Depends on your contract.

TeachesOfPeaches · 01/03/2018 19:37

How have you worked there for years and don't have a contract? I would start by getting that sorted ASAP

oblada · 01/03/2018 19:43

It doesn't matter re the contract, it doesn't change anything, quite the opposite, it makes it much easier to say that there is no contractual right to lay off.

jemsywemsy · 01/03/2018 19:43

If you are available and willing to work but are "locked out" by your employer then they should pay you unless your contract contains a lay-off clause.

Iwouldratherbemuckingout · 01/03/2018 19:44

We shut our office today and will be paying everyone!

Original poster
ssd · 01/03/2018 19:44

they wont give us a contract

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topcat2014 · 01/03/2018 19:47

@ssd - it is a legal requirement for employers to give a contract of employment after 16 weeks - not something that is 'optional'.

topcat2014 · 01/03/2018 19:47

Do you get proper payslips, showing tax and NI deducted etc?

oblada · 01/03/2018 19:49

Tomcat - it's a requirement after 1 month and should be provided within 2 months.
Having said that in practice is not really a big deal so I wouldn't worry too much about it..
But you do need to tell your boss he has to pay for the day, no wriggle room there!

underneaththeash · 01/03/2018 19:50

ssd that doesn't matter, legally they have certain obligations and the "contract" could just be implied terms.
They have to give you at least 2 days notice for 1 days holiday (so they can't force you to use holiday) and they cannot make deductions from your wages without your prior agreement on a signed contract.

www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions/contract-terms

Have a read and point in out in very nice terms to the HR lady and I'm sure she'll back down.

Dozer · 01/03/2018 19:50

They are in breach of employment law. Sorry your employer is so shit.

stargazer2030 · 01/03/2018 19:56

Am reading this with interest as my daughter who is only on an 8 hour contract was told not to go in yesterday as they were closing. I think according to this she should be paid. I will ring ACAS tomorrow for advise bit can bet my full years salary they will try to wriggle out of it. Huge retail chain.

Gwenhwyfar · 01/03/2018 19:59

""Take it as holiday?"

Why should she? Holiday days cost money if you have to pay childcare during the school holidays."

Why the F should anyone take a holiday if they didn't want one. Whether you have children or not, why should you deplete your number of holiday days??
If the office is closed because of the management's decision, you should still get paid.

Original poster
ssd · 01/03/2018 20:02

yes we get proper payslips

its retail, but a stand alone place

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