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Dubai for a holiday

151 replies

user1492877024 · 24/02/2018 21:51

Apologies in advance for posting here instead of the travel section, it's just that I know AIBU gets more traffic. DH and I are considering visiting Dubai for a week and I was wondering if anyone could advise on the best time to visit, places to stay and eat etc. Am struggling between visiting Omen or going to Dubai. Has anyone visited both places?

Any advice would be very much appreciated.

OP posts:
Shutupanddance1 · 25/02/2018 16:34

Lord I’m a terrible expat wife reading this thread Hmm- my handbag is worth about €20, I don’t have any cheap labor in my house and I support local initiatives to help those in need.

I had better medical care here during my pregnancy than I would have ever got back home in which I was consulted through the whole way.

OP - if you want to go, go and enjoy! You can point out the worst bits of anywhere, I’m sure there are lots of people in the world who wouldn’t go as far as Dublin due to some reason..

JaneyEJones · 25/02/2018 16:44

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Westbaywendy · 25/02/2018 16:45

Isn't abortion still illegal in Ireland? How very civilised. Lucky women.

sheitani · 25/02/2018 16:53

Having lived in the UAE for 7 years, I would advise that Oman has much nicer beaches, more cultural heritage and is much more authentically "Arabian" than Dubai. Dubai is a concrete jungle, with horrendous traffic and nothing to see in terms of sightseeing. Only go for Dubai if the only things you want to do are lie on a beach and go shopping.

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 16:53

Isn't abortion still illegal in Ireland? How very civilised. Lucky women.

Still illegal in NI too, part of the UK.... Terribly civilised indeed.

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 16:56

Also last I checked slave labour was illegal in Ireland and women had equal rights under the law. Yes there's an issue re abortion but that's being voted on in the very near future (May/June).

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 17:13

Isn't abortion still illegal in Ireland? How very civilised. Lucky women.

Also, stalker much?

Westbaywendy · 25/02/2018 17:17

I dont know what stalker means, please do explain. Its only an insult or personal attack if the person its intended for gets it.

BusterGonad · 25/02/2018 17:19

Janey in Qatar there were a few expats that looked like they were off of Jeremy Kyle! Lol
Shutup I do was a terrible expat wife, cheap handbag, cost about £15, second hand iPhone, never had manicures, refused to spend £5 on everyday things that would cost £1 in the uk. And I shopped in the local supermarket as much as possible as I hated Carrefour!!!!

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 17:21

Sure Wendy funny how you missed a part of the UK where the same applies in your dig at abortion rights in Ireland.

But I don't generally make an effort to find.posts about things I have little knowledge and experience of just to sound off my admittedly ignorant views on.

You really couldn't stick to that for very long could you.

Westbaywendy · 25/02/2018 17:22

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ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 17:27

Getting nasty and personal now aren't you Wendy. Clearly feel you can't defend your views any other way. It's clear I'm not the one with 'issues'.

greendale17 · 25/02/2018 17:28

All the wonderful places in the world to see and people go to this artificial shithole.

Westbaywendy · 25/02/2018 17:29

This is a post i know a lot about. Unlike Ireland which ihave no wish to visit and thonk of as dreary. If somekne was asking about taking a holiday in Ireland i wouldnt seek out the post so i could say it seems to be a dreary.place with ridiculous laws because people live there and presumably feel defensive when people who know nothing about it slag it off. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. You may be used to bullying people on the internet but you don't scare me.

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 17:34

Disagreeing is bullying? Seriously, if you can't handle mild disagreement you shouldn't be on the internet. However, checking through someone's posts to find out where they are from to make a personal attack is the bullying.

I gave my opinion and I explained why I hold it. Others can post whatever they like in response or feel free to ignore as can the OP. That's how a discussion board works.

And I couldnt care less what you think about Ireland.

Westbaywendy · 25/02/2018 17:40

That is so funny! I literally had.no idea you were from Ireland. I don't even know who you are. I just saw Dublin written down which made me think about how these inequalities are world over and often on our doorstep.

If you thought I had somehow looked you up, I can understand the stalker comment. That would be weird so if that happened, I'm sorry. I do not look.people up if there is such a thing. I'm just idling time away in the standby room at work not really taking this very seriously because it's so silly.

Shutupanddance1 · 25/02/2018 17:42

@BusterGonad haha I hate Carrefour too! Grin

@Westbaywendy As an Irish person, I’m sorry you find the whole island dreary Hmm but have you tried the West? We are a nice bunch with lots of beautiful beaches, scenery and more important - we know how to have the craic Wink

I’m hoping the OP got some help from this thread!

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 25/02/2018 17:43

Not much to be gained going back and forth on it I suppose. As I've already said I have my reasons for feeling as I do, as I'm sure do the other posters who feel differently.

Posting on AIBU is always going to bring out posters from all perspectives. The OP was warned early on about that at least....

Westbaywendy · 25/02/2018 17:45

I've never been to Ireland but it shows how easy it is to inadvertently hurt.peoples feelings (which was total coincidence) and that's how I feel when people say untrue and unfair things about Qatar where I live. I think I was put off Cork at university where I shared a bathroom with a girl who spent the whole term telling.me I wouldn't be welcome in Cork. And she was dreary. 😀

bridgetoc · 25/02/2018 18:14

@Westbaywendy Get a grip..........

user1492877024 · 25/02/2018 18:18

I'm glad I posted now as from reading some of the reply's has helped me decide where to go. It sounds like I would like Oman more than Dubai. Sorry, I didn't think something like this would start a bun fight. I will go to Dubai one day though. Thanks everyone.

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BusterGonad · 25/02/2018 18:45

Op Oman is lovely, I've not been to Dubai and tbh I don't fancy it, purely because of what I know about whilst living in Qatar and also from seeing the photos of the footballers and their WAGS dripping with money and labels, it sickens me a little bit.....BUT that is me being prejudiced and jumping to conclusions!

SusanneLinder · 25/02/2018 23:35

Whoops clicked too soon there! As per my above quote...... are you sure? My DH has to take Amitriptiline for various reasons and we researched before we went and all we had to take was a copy of his prescription and make sure he only took enough for our stay. Some people take a letter from their doctor too, but I don’t think it’s really necessary.

Sadly it is. His ADHD meds, codeine and Anti D's are all on the controlled list, and you need to get permission from Health Authorities to take it into country.
A 61 year old man with prostate cancer is currently in a Dubai prison ( see Independent newspaper)

TheHulksPurplePants · 26/02/2018 05:09

His ADHD meds, codeine and Anti D's are all on the controlled list, and you need to get permission from Health Authorities to take it into country.

I'm on all those except codeine and regularly travel in and out of the UAE. You just need a doctor's note and you can only take enough for personal use.

Dubai is a lovely city, however, like many places, you'll never experience it fully on holiday. I've been to many places and I would never assume that I KNOW a place or that I can even fairly judge it, based on a week's holiday. There is quite a bit of culture in Dubai, but you have to venture out of the Palm, Jumeriah and Business Bay to see it.

Moreover, the UAE as a whole is a beautiful country with lots to see, and a fascinating, rich culture and history.

Fine if it's not everyone's cup of tea, we all look for different things in life. I prefer to live in places that challenge me and where things are constantly changing.

I found Canada boring, stagnant and bland. I find the UAE, for all of it's issues, vibrant, challenging and exciting.

Does it have Human Rights issues? Yes, but so do many many many countries, I won't even get into the treatment of First Nations people in Canada. However, avoiding the country doesn't solve the problem. Look at North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. The more closed off a country is, the more human rights abuses become entrenched.

In the 12 years that I've lived in Qatar & the UAE the place has evolved by leaps and bounds. There never used to be avenues for expatriate workers to file complaints against their sponsors, now there are. Expatriates used to require exit permits to leave the country, that's been abolished. There are bodies to oversee laborer accommodations and wellbeing. And while bad things still happen, it's no where near what it was.

As for women's rights, that's also changing. When I moved to Qatar in 2006, you rarely heard of a Qatari girl being allowed to go to University overseas. Now it's becoming more common place. Emirati women make up a huge portion of the workforce and the government is mandating that organizations have on-site nurseries, 3 month maternity leave, and areas for breastfeeding. I experienced far worse sexism in South Korea & Canada than I ever experienced in the UAE/Qatar.

Funnily enough, there was a story in the paper that the UAE allowed a well known Ugandan LGBT activist into the country as a refugee. This place works in mysterious ways.

No place is perfect, and the point should be the strides they are making to change, not what they've done in the past (or else we need to condemn every country equally).

BeverlyHillsBillie · 26/02/2018 05:18

I think I was put off Cork at university where I shared a bathroom with a girl who spent the whole term telling.me I wouldn't be welcome in Cork. And she was dreary. 😀

What WBW says is true though. If you have a very unpleasant experience in a specific place, or have been given a very negative impression of it by the behaviour or attitudes of some of its nationals then that often informs your opinion of the place entirely, even if it the 'thing' that put you off was a snapshot, very limited in its scope or very polarised.

I was reading a thread recently about places people had been that they hated and would never return to. It was full of comments like 'Thailand. It rained for two weeks, there were bed bugs, the food was shit and there were ladyboys and child prostitutes everywhere.'

That was because they went in monsoon season, to a cheap and nasty 2 star hotel in Pattaya.

I have an entirely different opinion of Thailand because I've avoided the stuff and the areas I knew I wouldn't like. Hence, to me, it's a glorious, civilised paradise.

But I am always utterly amazed when people say they love Egypt. A filthier hole full of more slimy, unpleasant, untrustworthy men (and invisible women) I cannot imagine.

Based on MY experience. I'm sure there is another more pleasant side to Egypt and Egyptians but I have no intention of ever going again to find out.

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