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On the whole gender self-identity issue . .

64 replies

Justmyownself · 16/02/2018 16:41

I keep hearing the phrase

"Gender is just an artificial social construct"

Well so is age. Humans invented time, and the very concept of an "age". So if we must accept gender as being a social construct then surely next in the firing line is "age".

Could we now be any "age" we identify with?

If I am biologically a 25 year old, could I not "identify" as being 20? And demand that people use that number when referring to my "age"? Also, if I were biologically a 15 year old, but felt older, could I "identift" as 18 so that I could drink alcohol, live on my own, drive a car, etc?

It seems that it's entirely illogical to believe in gender as a social construct, while ignoring the obvious issue relating to "age"

Any thoughts?

OP posts:
PotatoesOfTheCarribean · 16/02/2018 23:19

I call troll, nobody is this fucking ignorant.

newyearsameme80 · 16/02/2018 23:23

It is an interesting idea self identifying your age...but your birth certificate would work against you
Couldn’t we have it so your birth certificate could be changed to reflect your new age identity?

PotatoesOfTheCarribean · 16/02/2018 23:24

Ha, ignore me. Slow tonight.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 16/02/2018 23:26

new

That could backfire as well

Imagine self identifying as a 16 year old and not able to buy wine Sad

Though you could probably get someone who self identified as a legal adult to buy it for you

Kimlek · 16/02/2018 23:44

@upabitlate - you’ve been up way past your bedtime, obviously delirious and need a sleep - a female penis? Seriously? Even surgical instruments are ‘male’ (insert) and ‘female’ (accept). female penis 🙄

salmonofwisdom · 16/02/2018 23:44

Age and gender are separate issues.What you are creating is a false logic...

blankpieceofpaper · 16/02/2018 23:48

I wish we could work to change polarised ideas of masculinity and femininity instead:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-rode-250-winners-man-12040518

Let men wear make-up and have long hair and put on a dress. Just let them!

DickTERFin · 17/02/2018 00:10

The passage of matter through space (which is how we measure time) is not a social construct. It is an essential quality of the universe.

Age is a social construct. Babies in China are 1 year old at birth and they follow the lunar year. We in the west are 0 at birth and follow a solar year. The passage of matter through space hasn't changed and the rate at which your body goes through the process of aging is unchanged but the numerical number that is your age would be different if you were born in a different culture with a different measuring system.

Numerical age is not an essential quality. Sex is an essential quality but as we can identify in and out of it now, there is no reason why we couldn't identify as a different age.

hiddenmnetter · 17/02/2018 06:51

I personally like to identify as being at work while I'm still in bed. I can't work out why my boss gets pissed off...

Kimlek · 17/02/2018 07:05

*I wish we could work to change polarised ideas of masculinity and femininity instead.

Let men wear make-up and have long hair and put on a dress. Just let them*

totally agree!!

RubyLennoxExists · 17/02/2018 07:05

Kubex
So what is your take then, given the rest of us are so misinformed.

[Ruby - self-identifies as a cat, but only the nice bits like sleeping a lot, enjoying the warm, having head rubs; self-ids as human for eating and hygiene activities and all other times when it suits me to use my human privilege]

RubyLennoxExists · 17/02/2018 07:07

BlankPiece I agree too

BrandNewHouse · 17/02/2018 07:24

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/02/2018 11:39

Blankpiece Yep... if only they'd just get on with it.

Nobody would bat an eye lid, but for the stupidity of the tiny minority within that 0.8% of the population that wants to redefine the whole bloody world to suit themselves!

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