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to write to Women’s Aid and ask you to do the same if you value their services

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CircleSquareCircleSquare · 05/02/2018 19:05

I am horrified to hear Women’s Aid are considering charging their policy meaning they may allow trans women (biological men) to work in their women’s refuges.

If you value safe spaces for women, please, please consider talking out.

I have written to them today with a heart felt plea. It isn’t a succinct or well thought out letter but it is from my heart:

Dear Women’s Aid,

In 1992 the violence my father subjected my mother, and eventually my brother and myself, to for ten years ended. It ended because my mother had the courage to escape, knowing she had a safe space for us at a Women’s Aid refuge in the south east of England.

As a nine year old I was vulnerable and terrified. I was later diagnosed with PTSD and still continue treatment into my thirties.
My father subjected me to physical violence, held me at knife point, threw weapons at me and burnt my clothes and toys. He beat my five year old brother to pulp and knocked my mother’s teeth out of her mouth. He damaged her face so badly her own sister didn’t recognise her and she still has severe dental issues 26 years later.

When we first entered the refuge I was terrified. I wet the bed, I screamed in my sleep and whenever I encountered a man (for instance a police officer, our solicitor or even my uncle) I went into flight mode and ran. I just ran and ran and ran. The sight of any man sent me terrified running into woods, through traffic and anywhere I could go to get away.
My mother occasionally recalls the moment I ran into a busy roundabout junction from inside a car when I heard we were going to speak to our male solicitor. She tried chasing me but 9 year olds are hard to keep up with, I got a good mile away before I stopped and cowered in some bushes when I no longer knew where I was. My mother vomited in the street. Our shared fear worked hard at tearing us apart.

Women’s Aid was literally a refuge from that fear. They helped to look after my brother and I whilst my mother met with her solicitor off site so I didn’t have to encounter a man. They helped us find a female GP, pushed for the police to give us a female liaison and encouraged me to have counselling.
They got my mother the medical and dental care she so badly needed after a decade of abuse. They saved us.

Eventually I started to feel safe, we stayed in that refuge for 3 months before moving to a smaller “half way house” for over 2 years and eventually into a home of our own.

I believe trans people have a set of prejudices to face that I do not envy and I believe, we should help them to have a recognised and safe place in society. However I do not believe a trans woman (biological Male) should be extended the right to work or live in a place where women (both born female and with a GRC) and vulnerable children, who are terrified of men, will be made to suffer daily as a result.

I urge you to think of the fear and damage such a move would cause and not give into lobbyists. Women’s Aid cannot alienate vulnerable women and children. Where would I, as an abused child have gone in 1992? How many times would I have ran? As much as I am happy to call a transwoman by their chosen name and refer to them as “she”, a child can very much understand that a biological man is a biological man no matter how much lipstick is involved.

I ask you kindly to consider the young me, the terrified me, the woman who still cries well into her thirties. I ask you to consider the rape victims who want to vomit when they see a male figure. I ask you to consider the woman beaten for years by men, who does not feel safe emptying her soul to a male figure.

Please consider women, those of us born female - who have no prejudice against trans people - but who need a space to be free from harrowing, demeaning fear heaped onto us by men. We are not bigots, we are terrified.

Please consider my plea. I beg of you.

Ms. E, the former 9 year old who only survived because of Women’s Aid.

You can contact them via the following methods:
Tel: 0117 944 44 11 (general enquiries only)
Fax: 0117 924 1703

Email: [email protected]

Our address:
Women’s Aid Federation of England,
PO BOX 3245
Bristol,
BS2 2EH, England

OP posts:
Lettucepray · 08/02/2018 19:26

Signed and shared. We need to keep voicing our concerns and not be silenced by the trans activists and their flying monkey's.

furcoatnaeknickers · 05/03/2018 13:05

Signed, thanks for the link and I’m sorry you’ve been through so much OP Flowers

Strigiformes · 05/03/2018 13:11

Signed, I so sorry to hear what you went through op. Flowers

ThymeLord · 05/03/2018 13:14

Circle I have already written to WA about this but I wanted to bump the thread and thank you for sharing your story Flowers

Ereshkigal · 14/03/2018 08:58

Bump. Reminds me I need to write to them.

BloodyFreezing · 15/03/2018 18:42

Did you ever get a response OP?

Italiangreyhound · 10/04/2018 04:34

@CircleSquareCircleSquare I am so very sorry you had those experiences in your past, from your opening post.

Flowers
mokapot · 10/04/2018 04:39

@circle

Just wanted to give you such a hug.

SisyphusWasGenderCritical · 04/07/2018 11:37

Circle Flowers

I have it on good authoritity that these organisations are being threatened with a loss of funding if they DO NOT submit to the pressure of accepting transwomen. The Scottish Government in particular is applying a lot of pressure to such groups and judging from the Welsh refuge thread, the Welsh Government too.

Governments need to be held to account for this. It's all very well holding consultations, but when the pressuring and the lobbying are being conducted in the shadows, you end up with a legal coup d'etat that is the result of the Scottish Government's Gender ID consultation, which will be released shortly. And if the Scottish Government do it, the rest of you in the UK are getting it shortly afterwards.

Make no mistake: Self ID is coming to the UK unless women fight tooth and nail to oppose it. And we need to start now.

QuizteamBleakley · 04/07/2018 13:09

Do trans activists read stories like this and not care? Not feel moved?

Your story has made me cry, @Circle - thank you for sharing it. I have experience of women's refuges, too, albeit in an authority role. I can not and will not ever forget taking women there, frightened, often beaten (and worse). I would revisit them frequently, and see the incredible impact that this liberation had. And it was liberation; they had been imprisoned - some for DECADES - beaten, abused, sexually assaulted, raped.

This proposal beggars belief.

dinosaursandtea · 04/07/2018 13:28

I’ll be writing to them to congratulate them on their policy.

QuizteamBleakley · 04/07/2018 14:09

@dinosaurs - In light of the OP and the fucking horrific life she escaped from and the bravery it no doubt took to post, do you REALLY think that's the appropriate thing to write here? If there ever was an inappropriate thread on which to gloat, this was it. Well done, I hope you're proud of yourself.

speakingwoman · 04/07/2018 14:16

Flowers OP

dinosaurs that's a horrible thing to say.

Ereshkigal · 04/07/2018 14:30

Do trans activists read stories like this and not care? Not feel moved?

I think you just had your answer.

pandamodium · 04/07/2018 15:04

Dinosaurs has just proved how much these emails and a petition is indeed needed.

I'm sorry OP, your letter is very brave.

QuizteamBleakley · 04/07/2018 16:44

@Circle - I have written to Women's Aid, in support of you and every woman and child that has had to use a refuge.
@Dinosaur - try to taste your words before you spit them out.

dinosaur · 06/07/2018 12:35

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malaguena · 06/07/2018 12:49

This makes me so angry. I already wrote to WA a few months ago about this, explaining that I had just recommended them to a practicing Muslim friend whose marriage had broken down and who was in a vulnerable situation. Thankfully in the end she didn't go to WA, because how would she have felt if came across a male in a supposedly women's refuge? There are plenty of women in abusive relationships who for religious, cultural or other personal reasons cannot share personal spaces with males. I find it appalling that WA is prioritizing males over vulnerable women that already suffer from discrimination. These women won't complain, they will simply stop using these services and end up in the street, or stay where they are despite the risks. By all means support trans people in domestic violence situations, but they need their own dedicated services, both for their sake and ours. WA answered with the same stock message that has already been shared, not heard anything more.

Ereshkigal · 06/07/2018 20:27

Poor dinosaur! Like crispbutty and crispbuttyfan all over ah aimn

Ereshkigal · 06/07/2018 20:27

*again

loveyouradvice · 19/07/2018 19:09

bump

TerfedOff · 02/10/2018 16:23

Someone linked this on Twitter. I'm in tears here reading this.

How can anyone read this and not get it?

Kinesis · 04/10/2018 08:17

Hi! I learned about this site from Twitter, and was encouraged to join a few days ago after someone linked me to a thread about a post I made regarding self-ID. As I am neither a mom, nor female, I felt a little shy to join, like maybe I’d be a bit out of place.

But this story. I made an account just to say how much this affected me.

Lately I’ve been speaking out a lot against transwomen unempathetically trying to force their way into places we do not belong, and it’s stories like this one that keep me speaking.

Thank you for writing it. I’ll be sharing it.

If you know of any other stories like this, I’d love it if you were to tag me @Kinesis when you share them so I can send them out to my small follower base for inspiration.

And thanks again for speaking out. I’m glad I came across this.

Terfnserf · 04/10/2018 08:42

Head over to feminism chat, all this is well under way