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AIBU to ask for your wacky immune system boosting tips? I'm sick of being sick.

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Gonzales27 · 05/02/2018 10:42

Any suggestions?

I am continually getting viruses, currently off sick with tonsillitis.

Dr has done a range blood test and there's nothing wrong there.

I'm normally a very logical scientific person who doesn't buy into wacky home remedies but I'm now getting desperate!

To rule out the obvious, for the last year I have been taken vitamins c, d and zinc as well as using Vicks first defence, to no effect.

What are your tips for me to boost me immune system?

OP posts:
TieGrr · 05/02/2018 16:13

I used to run, and for the few years that I regularly ran outside, three times a week, I rarely got a cold. Even if one began, I'd manage to knock it on the head almost immediately. I don't know if it was the exercise or the outdoors part that worked.

Gonzales27 · 06/02/2018 10:47

Thanks everyone, I've built up a comprehensive plan now which is slightly overwhelming but most things are just simple changes! If I find a miracle cure I'll let everyone know!

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bummymummythefirst · 06/02/2018 11:24

@TieGrr see I always stop exercise if I start to feel ill but that drives me mad. Maybe I'll try powering through it next time.

CalcatrippticLego · 06/02/2018 11:35

I think powering through is not good, you'll be too exhausted to fight the bugs. But gentle exercise really helps. So I do the same bike program but don't try to go fast, or exercises but not as many as a standard workout.

bummymummythefirst · 06/02/2018 11:38

Makes sense.

Snookerwidow · 06/02/2018 12:03

What a fantastic thread! Thanks OP.

I’m off work at the moment with a nasty virus. I’m asthmatic so it has gone straight to my chest.

To top it off, I’m now developing cystitis, which I’m plagued with every other month or so. It seems to come whenever I’m really run down. My gp just says it’s stress related.

Have any of you lovely people got tips for avoiding it? Obviously cranberry is said to be good for prevention but just wondered if anyone has other advice?

specialsubject · 06/02/2018 12:10

as you know you cannot boost your immune system, cobblers. Even with bottles of stuff from the fluffy bunny shop.

what you can do is get medical checks, eat properly, get enough sleep, wash hands and stay out of crowds, get exercise, take vitamin D in the winter (that IS recommended with science backup).

Home made sauerkraut can help iffy stomachs - shop bought no good as pasteurised. It works here too. Be careful with probiotics, lots of lies on packs there.

juneau · 06/02/2018 14:13

Yes - I agree with plenty of sleep and a pro-biotic too. Sleep, moderate regular exercise and good, nutritious food.

QuiteChic · 07/02/2018 08:32

Cordasyl (sp). At the first sign of a sore throat, I gargle for a couple of days. It tastes like you think Domestos would taste but it does seem to kill 99% of throat bugs.

But all of the above, exercise, no sugar, fresh food all help to keep me healthy.

Kittenshoes · 07/02/2018 10:32

Sorry, I don’t do wacky. I do evidence-based though.

Same here. The amount of money I wasted on following people's advice on things that only work according to anecdotal evidence...!

OP, take probiotics daily. You can buy them from the pharmacy. They work. I'm known as the "runt of the litter" in my family for being small and sickly but since taking daily probitics for the past year I haven't been sick once - I used to get 2-3 colds a year plus any other thing going around. They are a proven immune system booster.

Kittenshoes · 07/02/2018 10:40

And FWIW, I've also taken vitamins for the last 3 years which fulfil the recommended daily dose but they haven't made a blind bit of difference to me getting ill! I keep taking them as I want to be healthy and also they taste nice so it's a nice refreshing drink in the morning, but IME they don't work as an immune system booster.

specialsubject · 07/02/2018 11:18

As I said, some probiotics work and many are scams that won't get past your stomach acid. Check, the alleged reputation of the shop and the price are not relevant.

DustyMaiden · 07/02/2018 11:23

B12.
I find that I get over infections quicker if I go sugar free.

hollowtree · 07/02/2018 11:38

Amazing thread OP thanks!

Gonzales27 · 07/02/2018 12:37

Special which probiotic do you recommend? I'm not sure I know what to check for!

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specialsubject · 07/02/2018 12:59

Yes, well , read the NHS site on the subject. The claim for boosting immune system has actually been outlawed.

And as an aside sugar free is impossible.

AndBabyMakes3 · 07/02/2018 13:21

I used to suffer all the time with sore throat / tonsillitis / throat infections that then spread to my chest and would have me off work for weeks at a time. I've started using Listerine mouthwash containing menthol (can't gargle salt water) and haven't had a throat infection since (touch wood; it's been over a year now)

Skittlesandbeer · 09/02/2018 11:57

A bit more on fermented veggies, since there’s a few people asking for details.

If you want to read more on the research- look up ‘gut microbiome’. It’s basically the weird mix of bacteria keeping you alive from the inside. Think of it like a zoo. You might have imported a wide variety of animals to your zoo, but what you feed them determines what lives and thrives, and what starves and dies. Eating lots of fried carb food and fizzy drinks? Then you’ve narrowed your gut population to ‘bad’ bacteria that don’t give you much help. Eat a wide variety of veg, meat & grains? You’re encouraging a wide variety of ‘good’ bacteria that give you side benefits like weight loss and stronger immunity.

There are two main ways to improve your gut bacteria. One is get tested, identify what’s missing, get a faecal transplant. Basically they transfer some raw poo from someone with a better profile of bacteria than you and stick it in your intestine and hope they take over. Yes, really. Check it out, if you can bare it.

Or, method two, eat some small amount of fermented food regularly. Guess which I picked? At first you are introducing the good bacteria to your system, and letting them do battle with the bad stuff. Then you increase the population of good stuff by feeding it more fermented food.

The guru of fermented food is a guy called Sandor Katz (cool name, huh?). There’s lots free online, or buy his books. I think his ‘bible’ is the Art of Fermentation? It’s pretty hardcore, but gives you like 1000 ways to DIY it on the cheap.

Or just buy fermented veg/kefir/kombucha. Remember that although it tastes a lot like pickled veg, there’s no vinegar involved. Vinegar is an acid, that kills bacteria, right? If it’s in a jar or can on a shelf in a shop, it’s probably pickled. If it’s in the chilled section, and says ‘lacto-fermented’ or ‘wild fermented’ it’s probably the one you want. It has to be ‘alive’ to work.

Sounds a bit ‘woo’ I know, a bit like every two-bit snake oil solution to health. But I’m a researcher, and I’m so anti-wacky it’s not funny.

Follow the research, pick your favourite veg (easiest to find or ferment are cauliflower, green beans, cabbage, carrot, gherkins) and go for it. Get a recipe, mind the kitchen hygiene. Start with small amounts (in your diet) in case you have very dreary gut biome. You don’t want to start WW3 down there. Add salt and spices, as you would for a pickle. Our household fave is cauliflower with coriander seeds and some red cabbage (turns it a pretty hot pink). Don’t forget heat kills it too. Eat it cold, on the side, or away from the hot foods on your plate.

If you’re brave, seek out an old Slavic person who makes sauerkraut, or your local Korean restaurant for homemade Kim Chi. That’s some hardcore ferment.

Anyway, sorry that’s a bit long. But I can’t overemphasise how much it helped me, and how normal it will be for our children’s generation down the track. Every month I’m finding more legit research being done on the benefits.

specialsubject · 09/02/2018 12:09

anecdata not evidence - but homemade sauerkraut has solved a lot of problems here.

clean kitchen. Buy cheap white cabbage. Chop up. Pickle in brine in pickling jars. Watch for explosions. Eat!

Doobigetta · 09/02/2018 12:29

I think it's too late to use First Defence at the first sign of a cold. I have found though that using it as soon as you realise someone around you has one- in the office, at home or on public transport- and using it frequently while you're near them, seems to be pretty effective.
I also find that the one thing guaranteed to make me come down with something is to spend time with a baby or toddler. I'm not being facetious, and it's not helpful if you have one of your own, but the little buggers are the most horrendous germ factories. Avoid them, avoid illness.

kevinkeeganlovesme · 09/02/2018 12:30

@specialsubject can I use red cabbage too?

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Roomba · 09/02/2018 12:51

Wash your hands whenever you come into the house from outside - work, the supermarket, wherever. I started making everyone in the house do this as I was sick of constant colds, coughs, sick bugs and so on - my kids got them and passed them on to me. Made a massive difference in our house. We did wash our hands regularly before this, I should add, but doing it first thing when we got in seemed to help a lot. Also regularly disinfecting door handles, keyboards and remotes.

Other than that, make sure you get plenty sleep. Eat well and get fresh air as much as possible.

GetShitDone · 09/02/2018 13:30

I think it's too late to use First Defence at the first sign of a cold

I disagree. As someone with asthma, using it at the first sign of a cold has mad a HUGE difference to me. No longer does a cold go to my chest, no longer do I end up with a cough for at least two weeks after, and no longer do I get that full on stuffy head cold.

I still get a cold, but the effects are much reduced.

Nomorechickens · 09/02/2018 13:43

Tips I have picked up from watching evidence-based health programmes:
Eat a wide range of fruit and veg of different colours - try to eat some of each colour every day (yellow, orange, red, purple, green). You could try doing a massive veg stir fry - shredded cabbage (green and red), peppers, carrots, spring onions, garlic, ginger, whatever else you want to chuck in - as an accompaniment to your meal. Or a massive salad with lettuce, pepper, tomato, avocado, shaved carrot, toasted seeds. Or coleslaw (red cabbage, carrot). Fruit for dessert.
Home made kefir and sauerkraut or kimchi (haven't tried the last 2 myself I must admit)
Walk in the countryside, park or woods - your body will take in more of the microorganisms that fight free radicals (sorry to be vague on the scientific side)
At least 8 hours sleep a night - no screens for at least an hour before bedtime

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