Don’t know what to do about TA and her behaviour

[RickOShay]

I work in a primary school in a lowly position. On two separate occasions I have seen a TA manhandle children in Year one, so children of five or six. She pulled one child off the ground by his wrist because he pushed into the queue and another child she pulled back by the hood of her coat when she turned away while the TA was telling her off.
Should I take this further?

You should follow your school's safeguarding procedures.

Normally that involves filling in a safeguarding record form (usually as close to the incident as possible as it needs to be time/dated and time/date if recording) and handed IN PERSON to the school's safeguarding lead.
Do not put it in a tray/pigeoj hole.
Do not just have a chat about it.
Do not discuss it with anyone else.
Do not bring previous issues into it

Quite possibly hmm. But perhaps other TAs saw what happened with the children, and have may have seen this particular TA man handle children on other occasions, but no one has taken action have they?

But perhaps other TAs saw what happened with the children, and have may have seen this particular TA man handle children on other occasions, but no one has taken action have they?

What’s that got to do with anything? You need to take responsibility for what YOU have seen.

Jesus you either do not actually work in a school or are completely incompetent.

Procedure is to inform the safeguarding lead in person or by telephone ASAP. If you have reason to suspect you won’t be taken seriously you can go over their heads and that information will be available at your place of work.

Yes I know. I was replying to pp saying I had overstepped the mark, yes maybe, but I am reporting this TA’s behaviour, and will take the consequences of that. This school
has a negative kind of culture, Imam not confident of a positive outcome.
This thread has slammed and damned me more than the TA.

See what i mean

It is not my behaviour which is in question here it is the TA’s.

Why would there be consequences of reporting a safeguardinf concern following procedures?

It bothers me more that something has happened (i assume) last week and it's Sunday night and you're still deciding if you are going to report a safeguarding concern.

I think you are spending too much time getting wrapped up in who does/doesn't like each other.

At the end of the day, anyone working with children has a duty to keep them safe.

Maisy I don’t care if they use a photo of me as a dartboard, it’s all their own stuff projected, I couldn’t give two hoots.
I am not deliberating. I will report this. I am not the one with the problem, if I worked in a school with a different environment either I would have reported it straight away OR it wouldn’t have happened in the first place.

It is not my behaviour which is in question here it is the TA’s.

Your lack of reporting is seriously questionable here.

Ok, but I am going to report. So now it’s the delay that is questionable?

Yes, you should have reported both incidents immediately.

Jesus, I'm a nursery teacher, and I can't believe tjis is still rumbling on. Tomorrow, speak to your DSO or DSL. If you don't know who that is or what that is ASK. Report your concerns. If yiu haven't had safeguarding training, you must ask your manager. Yiu have a duty of care, and it should be stated in your contract. Report your concerns tomorrow

So now it’s the delay that is questionable?
Of course it's questionable.
Have you even done basic safeguarding training?

Records should be filled in as soon as possible after the disclosure or incident.

Your lack of basic safeguarding awareness concerns me. Nobody should be in a school with such little knowledge of how to keep children safe imo.

Posters have told you to report it because they think the behaviour you describe is inappropriate. That is not actually questionable at all, on the information you have given. Which is why it hasn't really been questioned. In addition you have an obligation around safeguarding which you have not yet met. Also unquestionable, in fact.

Op
I am sorry for your situation.
You have experienced bullying and not being listened to at this school in the past.
I can imagine you are worried that this will happen again. You will not be believed.
Are you worried that your own children will be victimised by staff?
That you might be bullied out of your job and possibly have to take your children out of the school?
I have seen shocking behaviour in 2 schools that my own dc attended. Much of which was covered up and lied about by staff.
It is horrible.
I think you do need to join a union asap. At least then you might feel less anxious.

Can I just confirm that you work there for an hour ish a day, supervising children eating their lunch?

It is shocking, thank you endof, you are right.
No leccy I am not in the canteen.

Playground supervision then, alongside TAs?

It sounds like the best option would be bypassing the head teacher and going reporting to who ever is above.
They would never even know It was you.
Relax, find your back bone and protect the children whom have no voice

endofthelinefinally
With the best will in the world, we're probably best not trying to bring in other gripes the OP has into this.

We can't say whether she is being bullied or whether she's routinely pissed people off.

E.g. She says that she doesn't agree with how lunches are ran so has reported it to the head / the teachers don't like her and staff view her as thr enemy within (most teachers i know have almost nothing to do with lunch staff because we're in our classrooms / staff room at lunch).

It could be that the school is horrendous and doesn't deal with safeguarding properly
It could equally be that regularly running ti the head to offer feedback on colleagues and how things are done has simply pissed people off so they have no reason to want to be friendly.

People not liking a colleague doesn't mean they are going to bully them out of a job. I used to work with a know it all teacher who in their 12 months out of univeristy used to do a lot of reporting back ti SLT anything and everything they felt other people were doing wrong in their teaching. Unsurprisingly, people didn't like them. We were professional enough to exist but that is it. Their actions meant we had no desire to be friendly.

In two years I have had two meetings that I instigated, one of those was to disclose a SAFEGAURDING matter that a child had disclosed to me.
The school is horrendous Maisy.
The majority of posters on this thread have made me feel worse.

I have had inadequate safegaurding training. Whose fault is that?

Do you not all think that if the school was reliable and transparent I would have had no hesitation in reporting this?
That is the problem

here, not my delusions of grandeur of cowardice.

What are you or understanding????
You need to go above the awful school and report it.

Not* understanding