Aibu in being shocked at this school newsletter?

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Aibu in being pretty appalled at this school news letter or am i being naive?

Children attend a catholic primary school- dh is Catholic I am not. Never had an issue with the school, children are in the last couple of years there.

Had a newsletter home tonight saying that a new ‘children and social work act of 2017’ has been passed and that parents will no longer be able to remove their children for PSHE lessons but that the government are still deciding what content the lessons should have. There is a public questionnaire on gov.uk to write your ideas.

The newsletter then goes on to say that we need to ensure that things that are age suited to children get suggested and I quote ‘to avoid respect for alternative lifestyles being allowed to undermine Christian principles of marriage and family life’.

It then goes on to link ‘coalition for marriage’ for help with us filling in this questionnaire.

Coalition 4 marriage is a group that promotes a traditional family set up and states that children should be taught that ‘marriage between a man and a woman as the gold standard of adult relationships’ Also that ‘they believe there is no age-appropriate way to teach primary school children about same sex marriages or transgenderism’. In blinding hypocrisy it then goes on to say ‘we should be teaching children broad values of tolerance and respect’.

!? I thought that in this day and age in the uk even if you attend a faith school inclusivity was seen as important/ the norm.
Would you be angry at this or just see it as an unavoidable downside of attending a catholic school?

What do you mean is that It?

where then? What, exactly, does the new testament say about gay marriage?

I went to a catholic primary school. They taught us so much crap, I would not have sent my DC there even if I lived next door and had to travell 100 miles to the next nearest school.

It's not bigotry to believe gay people cannot have a Catholic marriage. It's different to saying saying people shouldn't be married. We're taking about how marriage is discussed in a Catholic school. Catholic marriage is a different entity to a legal marriage.

Not sure why you are surprised. This is Catholic teaching.

It's not hypocrisy to teach the philosophy of loving the sinner but not the sin.

Well, there were, and are, plenty of people called Jesus. I know a couple. So the fact that a Jesus existed, is that it?

Green

Is any religious homophobia scriptural in it’s origin? Catholicism is far from alone in homophobic teachings. I appreciate this discussion is based on a Catholic school and it’s news letter, but there’s no point pretending that homophobia isn’t an issue in all of the major world religions.

Quite right, I made that point earlier. Religious bigotry is the scourge of human culture imo. Thankfully much of it is on the way out, albeit too slowly for my liking.

This is depressing. My ds is due to start a catholic primary school in 3 weeks simply because it’s the only school in a 20 mile radius that has a space in his year group. He’s currently at a C of E school but apart from doing a nativity and singing a few hymns there’s not really any religion done at school. I had hoped this new school would be the same

It's Christianity that still has this outdated stranglehold on our tax-funded education system though, so it's Christian bullshit that people are getting angry about here.

Is that it in relation to what?

Skipping the usual bollocks that has undoubtedly been written on this thread so far, my dds are at a Catholic primary and I’d be horrified if something like that was sent home. Thankfully it wouldn’t be, at least three of the teachers are gay. Don’t tar us all with the same brush.

My Catholic schools back in the 80s were nothing like that either.

I currently have two school children in a Catholic primary. We moved to a new area and in theory there's loads of choice - about 6 primaries in a mile radius. However, the area is heaving with families. I didn't even put the school down on the application with the council. This is where they have space, so that's where they are going. I am not capable of home schooling them.

I would not be surprised at this (saddened yes). We've just moved from an area where there was a primary per village. They were 80-90% c of e. My eldest's teacher in reception left to become a missionary. I think this is where she picked up that marriage was solely for making children and being gay was wrong because they couldn't make children and thus couldn't get married. She has ASD, and this really stuck with her - think she was in yr 4 before I could persuade her otherwise (an authority figure had said it see, so must be true...). So those of you thinking this is just a Catholic thing, it ain't.

I just think it's lucky that no gay children are born into religious families or attend religious schools. Imagine how shit that would be, some little kid sitting there being told that they've been created wrong and have a choice between celibacy, living a lie or being unacceptable to God, the church and their families.

You don't know what you're talking about. The Catholic church doesn't frown on gay people being married. The pope is very clear on this.

Catholic school promotes marriage shocker!!! [shocked]

Green

That’s a fair point and one I’d actually failed to consider properly.

Dreamy

It’s 2018 - marriage isn’t just for a male/female couple.

The pope says marriage can only be between a man and a woman. So yes gay people can marry, but not those to whom they are sexually attracted.

Really feel like I'm banging.my head against a brick wall. Catholic marriage is not the same as legal marriage. You need to understand that before you can pass comment on the church's views on homosexual relationships

Barbarian

I briefly had a relationship with a girl (we were girls at the time, really), who had been educated at an independent Christian school until 6th form. When she came out as a lesbian to her mum, her mum told her to never tell her father and bought her a book on being Christian, gay and celebate. When we were together she talked about how she didn’t find men attractive at all, had only ever found women attractive but that she’d marry a man and have children because that was the right thing, all in the same sentence. Huge issues, all based in religion. The relationship ended badly and we’ve not seen each other or spoken for almost a decade but I hope she is more at peace with herself now than she was then.

I agree with pp if you dont like it dont send them to a catholic school. If you do send them to a catholic school dont whinge when they get taught catholic beliefs.

This! I mean, it's hardly likely to come as a surprise,is it?!

The Christian teaching is that marriage is between a man and a woman. Of course this is the message that a Catholic school will teach. They will teach about marriage being a sacrament and what that means to Catholic people. It isn't homophobic but it isn't PC either. Don't send your children to Catholic schools of you have a problem with this.
And this. If you have such a problem with it aside from sending them there in the first place if you're so opposed Teach them yourselves that this is what the religion teaches and believes, but it is also OK to marry a member of the same sex in this country. (UK.)

We do understand it. I come from a large devout Catholic family, I understand it perfectly. And it's backward, vicious, socially destructive drivel that has no place in a 21st century classroom, particularly at public expense.

Sounds like standard Christianity to me.

I wouldn't be having my DC be taught homophobia as a byproduct of a 'good education'.