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To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this

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welliments · 01/02/2018 17:57

Merchandise from a major dance show at the excel centre in London next month. They sell these, and tshirts from age 6 up.

I’m going to have to explain to a 10 year old why she can’t have a jumper...

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this
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IMightMentionGriddlebone · 01/02/2018 22:14

Mumsnetters do it with CFs or Mumsnetters do it watched by CFs

welliments · 01/02/2018 22:16

bangingmyheadoffabrickwall

Your user name is exactly what I feel like I’m doing.

Have you rtft???

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lottiegarbanzo · 01/02/2018 22:16

Oh the nostalgia. The Young Ones, Victoria Wood and...

Frankie Goes to Hollywood's no. 1 song Relax - banned by the BBC for being really, really rude. Well, ok, in that 'do it' was orgasm, not just have sex. But it certainly added extra suggestiveness to the connotations of 'do it'.

Now, who remembers Wicked Willy, and 'Wot No...' chads?

NataliaOsipova · 01/02/2018 22:18

Words, phrases, sentences CAN all have double meanings but it's our own way of thinking that allows it to be.

I'd say it's the context which dictates the meaning. Take for example, "Give me a good screw". If I happened to be in Wickes at the time, it may just about be taken literally. Otherwise, people would assume an entirely different meaning.....

DreamyMcDreamy · 01/02/2018 22:19

It's only a sexual innuendo if you want it to be, allow it to be and think of it as being that. Words, phrases, sentences CAN all have double meanings but it's our own way of thinking that allows it to be.

Exactly.

DreamyMcDreamy · 01/02/2018 22:21

Have you rtft???

People are capable of RTFT, and not agreeing with you.
As to your question - yes, I'd see nothing wrong with putting my 6 year old in the hoodie.
As it doesn't automatically mean sex like you seem to think.
It's interesting where some minds go first and others don't.

welliments · 01/02/2018 22:23

dreamy you’re back!

Can you answer my question...

So, knowing what other people will think this jumper means. You would still let your 6 year old wear it, yes?

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this
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Mycarsmellsoflavender · 01/02/2018 22:23

Not offended by it as it's pretty lame, but I read it as a sexual innuendo dating back a few decades as I assume many other adults would, and therefore I wouldn't dress a child in it.

My favourite 'do it': In the 80s/90s, I played in a brass band. One guy had emblazoned across his trombone case "Trombonists do it in 7 positions".

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 01/02/2018 22:24

The sweatshirt has an 80's retro vibe and is fine for adult dancers. However, yes, there is an inescapable link to sexual innuendo and a slightly smutty ongoing joke.

If you're younger, and didn't see any of this stuff and therefore don't know about that, fine. But it is something that other people will know about. Realising that, it's not at all odd that some people will think it's not an appropriate slogan for a child to wear.

If your child goes surfing, is: 'Surfers do it standing up,' okay? Or 'Italians do it better' okay to have on their sweatshirt? Because for anyone who knows the reference, it's the same joke.

lottiegarbanzo · 01/02/2018 22:24

No, it's not a choice it's an unavoidable reflexive response. It's a case of not being able to unsee what has been seen, un-know what is known.

I never, ever wanted to 'see' the London 2012 Olympic logo as Lisa Simpson giving someone a blow-job. Once seen though... (and it wasn't just me. I just googled 'London 2012 logo'. The second option offered by Google follows with 'Lisa Simpson').

Gabilan · 01/02/2018 22:26

Look at it this way OP, by the time you've explained it to half the people on this thread, explaining to your DD why she can't have the top will be easy.

mommytoboo86 · 01/02/2018 22:27

hmm so would u think a Facebook status that said
"I like it on the coffee table"
to mean I like sex on the coffee table??
I take it nobody remembers the Wicked Willy fad or shag bands etc
and yes I would by those Peppa pig pj's cos it's true Peppa does everything with attitude.
Also if a child gets this jumper I can only assume they are dancers therefore would be familiar with the ballet term attitude with a French accent

welliments · 01/02/2018 22:28

dreamy

Some minds will go to what they remember the phrase actually being used for !

It has zero to do with having a ‘dirty mind’.

I honestly can’t believe you would let a six year old wear what you know others will see as sexualised clothing. But then you couldn’t let that get in the way of your professional unoffendedness.

I am totally aware that you can rtft and disagree with me. Bangingmyheads post reads totally like she hasn’t read the fact that a lot of people remember when this saying was a sexualised ‘joke’, but then so do yours so maybe she has rtft. In which case, I apologise.

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IMightMentionGriddlebone · 01/02/2018 22:29

I really can't get behind this idea that familiarity with particular cultural references like 'do it' jokes is a personality flaw or whatever. Grin I can grasp the meaning of newspaper headlines in two major European languages, too. Is that something to do with my way of thinking too?

I've learnt in this thread that "attitude" refers to a particular dance position. Knowing that, how do you expect the OP, the mother of a dancer, to not get the intended double entendre? Is she at fault for being familar with dance vocabulary?

CandyYumYum · 01/02/2018 22:30

'so would u think a Facebook status that said
"I like it on the coffee table"
to mean I like sex on the coffee table??'

I'd think 'you're oversharing there a bit, love'.

I'd also think 'be careful, coffee tables are notoriously flimsy and your Gary is a hefty bloke'.

welliments · 01/02/2018 22:31

Look at it this way OP, by the time you’ve explained it to half the people on this thread, explaining to your DD why she can’t have the top will be easy.

this

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iBiscuit · 01/02/2018 22:31

I'm pleased that this has been recognised as innuendo, as opposed to double entendre.

lottiegarbanzo · 01/02/2018 22:32

But I love how the self-righteously unoffended believe that because they don't 'speak 80s' and quite rightly consider puerile 80s jokes to be, well, quite puerile, it follows that no-one else they encounter in day to day life 'speaks 80s' either. I guess they don't mix with 'the public'.

NataliaOsipova · 01/02/2018 22:32

hmm so would u think a Facebook status that said
"I like it on the coffee table"
to mean I like sex on the coffee table??

In the absence of any further context, then yes, that's exactly what I'd take it to mean. (I'd probably also assume the person's facebook had been hacked.) It's a bit like someone saying "I like a full bush"; you wouldn't assume they were talking horticulture. Because certain phrases are loaded; they have a well known double meaning, so are therefore generally avoided in their "single" form.

NataliaOsipova · 01/02/2018 22:33

I'd also think 'be careful, coffee tables are notoriously flimsy and your Gary is a hefty bloke'.

GrinGrinGrin

iBiscuit · 01/02/2018 22:34

Oh, maybe it is double entendre Confused

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 01/02/2018 22:34

What. Hold the phones. Have we got someone here who didn't realise that the ridiculous charidee fad for posting statuses about your handbag placement was supposed to produce risqué sentences!

All that tosh about "I like it on the table" was supposed to sound dirrrrty, baby.

welliments · 01/02/2018 22:35

It’s deffo a double entendre iBiscuit but you’re forgiven Grin

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welliments · 01/02/2018 22:36

What did you think ‘I like to do it on the coffee table’ meant mommytoboo86?

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shakeyourcaboose · 01/02/2018 22:37

Someone has posted this already haven't they...

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this