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To ask what you think about 'Grid Girls' no longer being used?

530 replies

Sallystyle · 31/01/2018 19:19

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261

I think it is a great thing.

Some people on my FB clearly don't.

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FluffyMcCloud · 01/02/2018 06:42

It's not about the individual women and their choices! It's bigger than that! It's what the whole thing represents and it's so frustrating when people can't / choose not to see that. It's a negative and dangerous thing (again, bigger picture, not for each individual girl) and people make the free choice to do negative and dangerous things all the time. Doesn't mean that it should be allowed to continue.
Remember when smoking was banned in pubs? Plenty of smokers inconvenienced. Free thinking people who chose to smoke indoors of their own free will shoved outside. How dare we judge them on their actions? How dare we take away their choice?

For the greater good.

Why can people not see that? It's not about the individual women. They might chose the job and be super happy with it but it spreads misogyny just like the passive smoke from the pub smokers. Passive Patriarchy.

This is a Good Thing.

Falmer · 01/02/2018 06:51

Whether it's the bigger picture or the individual, the whole thing makes me feel sick! Always has done, I'll be glad when it's all stopped, not just F1.

DontWannaThanks · 01/02/2018 07:02

Exactly fluffy.

Women are not on this planet for titillation to men! This is a great step towards equality

kalapattar · 01/02/2018 07:17

At no time ever during my time carrying out that employment was I ever asked or expected to place myself in a position to be sexually assaulted and I have never been expected to touch up anybody reporter or otherwise

You were just expected to look good and be attractive so men could stare at you whilst they got on with work. God forbid you should be expected to have an opinion on anything.

PiffIeandWiffle · 01/02/2018 07:28

Maybe they don't want to be changing tyres or monitor on board computers. Maybe were happy doing the jobs they had

Exactly. I see & hear a lot of the younger women at work who are more than happy to be doing menial work & that can't wait to get "settled down" so they don't have to work any more.

You're more likely to meet someone that can keep you in the lifestyle you want in one of these "grid girl" type roles than you are stacking shelves. They're proud of what they look like & use that to their advantage - they're not stupid!

Interesting to see the number of "I never watched it but......" type comments from the semi-professional hoickers.....

gingertigercat · 01/02/2018 07:31

If it was never about women being objectified then surely there would be male models as well as female? If it's purely about advertising ...as I believe both sexes enjoy sport!

But there aren't. It's ring girls, grid girls, podium girls etc which is outdated.

I do think a provision to ensure that there were both male and female models with a similar dress code would have been a more welcomed move though. Now we have cries of 'let's just ban all models and adverts then shall we?! Where will it end?' Etc which distracts from the real point.

PiffIeandWiffle · 01/02/2018 07:31

For the greater good.
This is a Good Thing.

Christ, people like you scare me!!

Fuck the greater good I'm afraid!

Me, Family, Friends, Country, Every other fucker (if they're lucky) in that order......

HoneyDragon · 01/02/2018 07:34

They not lost “their job” it’s a gig. One event that no longer requires the services of women from an agency. It’s a short term gig at that, as the skill set is young, thin, attractive, biologically female.

HandbagKrabby · 01/02/2018 07:37

Yeah all those nasty feminists campaigning for equal pay and maternity rights and shit, when really all us girls want to do is get our skimpies on and trot round a race track in insecure employment!

I didn’t realise F1 was a hotbed of nasty feminists, what with the total lack of women in any position of power or responsibility involved in it.

If I had a pound for every anecdote of a woman who paid her way through medical school by showing men her body for money I’ve heard, I’d be able to pay my way though medical school, fully clothed.

cindersrella · 01/02/2018 07:41

It's a job and they enjoy it. It's there choice to do it. Why should they suffer because other people don't like it. Surely what job we all do is our choice. Who is anyone to say they shouldn't be able to do this.

Killerqueen2244 · 01/02/2018 07:42

This has annoyed me- the outrage from the pit girls and yet I don’t see why it should be a gender specific job?! Lauren Pope has blamed the feminists on twitter, using the ‘loosing her job’ argument but if she lost her looks tomorrow she wouldn’t have the job either. If theyre so keen on it being a valued job then why not campaign for it to be open to all walks of life? I’d rather the daughters of the world growing up to be like Claire Williams than Lauren bloody Pope. Until society stops putting so much importance on being beautiful then this will never change, especially the attitude that feminists are ugly and therefore their only reasoning is they don’t want pretty girls doing vacuous jobs like this! Hmm

TheHolidayArmadillo · 01/02/2018 07:45

I doubt liberty media give a shit about the grid girls either way. More likely they’re shitting themselves about the #metoo/TimesUp stuff and are preemptively getting rid of them to appear less sexist if anyone ever makes a complaint about inappropriate behaviour in other areas of the sport.

kalapattar · 01/02/2018 07:46

You're more likely to meet someone that can keep you in the lifestyle you want in one of these "grid girl" type roles than you are stacking shelves

I am sure that life has plenty of opportunities for attractive young women to find a rich man to keep them in the lifestyle they want.

moreofaslummythanyummy · 01/02/2018 07:50

It's occasional weekend work. Grand Prix only take place every 2-4 Sundays during the competition season and are in such differing geographic locations that it isn't the same women at each Grand Prix. It's very unlikely that anyone earns a living from being a "grid girl"
Many famous models have worked as grid girls, it is a great platform to network and get noticed .
It makes me so sad how these girls are viewed as irrelevant, I wonder how some of the other poster would react in their position.

AssassinatedBeauty · 01/02/2018 07:51

The girls are not irrelevant, the role is. Many job roles change as time moves on.

kalapattar · 01/02/2018 07:55

It makes me so sad how these girls are viewed as irrelevant, I wonder how some of the other poster would react in their position

Maybe they might reflect on the role of grid girls, podium girls, round girls and booth babes and ask themselves if that leads to women being seen as objects and decoration and what impact that has on people?

Laiste · 01/02/2018 07:59

I'm sure there were plenty of women who were quite happy not having the vote.

Thankfully, for the greater good, times move on.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 01/02/2018 08:02

I’m a lifelong f1 fan and I’m pleased they’re going. I want my nieces to grow up knowing that their place in a sport they love is as participant spectator or pundit, not as eye candy or clothes horse!

So good and on point that i thought i would post it again

Pickleypickles · 01/02/2018 08:04

It feels more to me like we have gone back 50 years not that this is times moving on.

I dont see why anyone man or woman has the right to tell any other man or woman what they should or should not be doing. The girls arent forced to be there, they apply for a job and get paid for there work like any other woman should be able to do.

Just because its not something you would choose to do doesnt mean no women shoild be allowed. Every woman should be allowed to choose the job that makes her happy even if thats standing on a race track in a catsuit.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 01/02/2018 08:08

I never hear women complaining when its a half naked man advertising diet coke

Really

Thats weird because when i just checked there have even been a few threads on here about it

AllMyBestFriendsAreMetalheads · 01/02/2018 08:08

It's a wonderful coincidence that the 'girls' who want to do this job only want to do it whilst they are younger. By the time they are older, they have all 'chosen' to do other jobs. Funny that.

AssassinatedBeauty · 01/02/2018 08:09

The company that own F1, Liberty Media, have made this decision for commercial reasons. No one has been campaigning or lobbying for this. Feminists or women's rights groups have not banned anything. If you don't like the commercial decision that Liberty Media made then maybe contact them and express your disappointment and your objections to them restricting the choices for women. Perhaps organize a boycott of F1 until they reinstate the role?

lynsey91 · 01/02/2018 08:18

I have been a fan of F1 for 40 years and don't have a problem with the grid girls. Me and DH often laugh at their outfit.

The tried grid boys in Monaco a couple of years ago. Apparently one of the drivers made a homophobic remark to him. Vettel I believe

LightDrizzle · 01/02/2018 08:18

I’m pleased. It’s long overdue. It’s anachronistic and ridiculous. There are a rising number of female senior engineers etc. among the teams and watching them being interviewed trackside, in their standard team polo shirts and trousers with occasional ”dollybirds” wafting in and out of view created a strange dissonance. The uniformity of the grid girls’ dress and grooming makes them look even odder, they really are just decoration; they sometimes clap in a clearly prescribed, prim manner, and they hold things and might hand things over, but their gestures are clearly choreographed and coordinated like a chorus line. It’s like stepping back in time.
While at the Belgian Grand Prix three years ago, we were seated so as to see their long, painful walk in formation along the track before the track parade in vertiginous heels, it was a heck of a distance. Later, as they disappeared behind a building (as far as the cameras and pit seats were concerned) they all removed their shoes and hobbled off barefoot/ in stockinged feet.
What's it all for? I’ve been to four Grand Prix and nobody gives a shite about the grid girls, I didn’t even know that was their name, there was never any ripple of excitement near us on their appearance. I think the majority of the sport has been a bit embarrassed about them for some time.

moreofaslummythanyummy · 01/02/2018 08:20

It's a wonderful coincidence that the 'girls' who want to do this job only want to do it whilst they are younger. By the time they are older, they have all 'chosen' to do other jobs. Funny that.

The same could be said for many job you need to be young and fit for .

It is a stepping stone like many other jobs young people do.