So what’s to be done about the mysogynistic bullying infecting the Labour Party?

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Harriet Harmon, massive respect, says the claire situation in Haringsy cannot he brushed under the carpet. I think it already has. Momentum who is controlling labour leadership has a macho bullying mysogynistic cult. How can we get our party back and women on board? Any ideas?

Why am i called a bot and you guys put this stuff up all the time?

Probably because you post like one and use buzzwords/phrases that have little to nothing to do with what you're quoting.

I am in the same boat as a lot like the above. Although I have been called a Tory from a few people on here I've never voted Conservative in my life. I have always voted since legally able to do so for Labour (apart from the one year I voted Lib Dems) and have always voted my local Labour MP as he's very good. But I abstained from voting in the last election.

My area is strange anyway. 75+% to leave the EU yet 82% Labour stronghold. I do put that down to the local MP being very good despite him campaigning to stay in the EU.

You ask that seriously, make?

Let's give you the benefit of the doubt.

The question is, what is labour doing about misogynistic bullying (apart from actively promoting it ). With reference to a recent very high profile incident.

And your response is, "tories bad". Not an attempt to answer the question, to explain what they might be doing, to acknowledge issues, to refute the claims - nothing like that. Just: "ner ner ner ner ner, the evil tories are worse!" Like a stuck record.

THAT'S why you're a bot.

They will do exacy as they have done about anti-semitism. Absolutely nothing.

I'm going to find the next election impossible. Tories - not while there's breath in my body, Labour - misogynistic and anti Semitic, Lib Dem - unreliable turncoats, Green - possible but pointless. I guess a spoilt paper is the only answer.

I don’t know about the allegations of misogynistic bullying, and sadly they wouldn’t surprise me, it seems to be part of politics of almost any political shade. But Haringey council have been trying to push through a massive privatisation of housing estates and other council property for ‘regeneration’. Already in many other boroughs in London, social housing is being demolished, replaced by housing of which only a small proportion is “affordable” (i.e. not affordable at all to the former residents). I don’t hold a torch for Corbyn or Momentum, but if local politicians hold their voters in contempt then they deserve to be kicked out. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/03/britain-power-contempt-grenfell-labour-haringey-social-housing

And your response is, "tories bad".

Well they are bad.

Well they are bad.

You are very good at whataboutism.

Maybe hard for you to contemplate, but fumnily enough Labour aren't some sort of utopia that is all unicorns and wonderful.

And here’s another article with more detail about Haringey amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/12/haringey-council-taken-over-momentum-locals-taking-back-control

Puffins, if that really is what Labour London boroughs are doing, it's bonkers, they're socially engineering all their support away.

well yes puffins - weren't a lot of the dodgy high rises in the north of england built by labour councils in the 60s/70s? Our friends in the north etc - there are reasons labour moved away from Corbyn's favoured policies.

I’m not talking about building substandard social housing in the 60s/70s, I’m talking about demolishing it in the 21st century with no replacement other than sky-high private rental. Families being driven out of London, and taxpayers left subsidising private landlords through housing benefit. For some reason developers seem to be able to strike deals with councils that give massive profits for them and rip off taxpayers - see the Heygate Estate for example www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/11/look-heygate-estate-whats-wrong-londons-housing

i know puffins, my point was that both of the main parties are capable of bad decisions that need to be scrutinised, from the guardian article:

Contempt doesn’t belong solely to one neighbourhood or political party

And that's why we need to get beyond overly simplistic slogans and give policies proper scrutiny. It was obvious that there were several points of failure at Grenfell too - all the people claiming on facebook that tories are happy with murdering the poor actually gets in the way of any kind of proper debate.

They will do exacy as they have done about anti-semitism. Absolutely nothing.

I don't know, they might offer up another peerage.

Same here I hate extremes too and the far left are fucking chilling and frightening.
I don't know what the way forward is.

i read this article in more detail puffins - is blair for labour councils privatising estates at knock down rates and building almost no affordable units in the replacements?

i agree that these schemes need to be stopped, but this is clearly greedy local councils acting with sufficient national oversight, as much as it is anything that can be linked to Blair.

In actual fact, Blair should be asked to comment on these schemes that are being dubbed 'blairite' as this is EXACTLY how the Corbyn team have smeared him and continue to do so...

insufficient that should say...

the thing about regeneration is that it can be done in good or bad ways - clearly, these are examples of where it has been done badly, that doesn't mean the idea is bad or that Corbyn is right that the state/tax payers should be funding the entire regeneration (if that is what he says).

Blair is for regeneration, who isn't, but I very much doubt he'd be standing for the way these councils have chosen to attempt to achieve it.

Momentum are doing really good work finally cleansing the party of those godforsaken right wingers.
Claire Barnes was on a mission to privatise all Haringey housing and hand over all Haringey's public assets to the private sector. Not even a Tory would have had her balls. No wonder she got kicked out as no one else agreed with her and she still tried to steamroller ahead.

It wasn't just Momentum bullying her either it was normal Labour members, male and female who wanted her out.

The longer Corbyn stubbornly carries on as leader the better. Will keep labour out

When a party start to "cleanse", you should start to worry.... Who know how far the cleansing will go.

What's the 'Claire situation'? Think I missed it

Anyone know if Alastair Campbell has spoken about the gender self ID?

Puffins

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/ex-miners-face-eviction-to-make-way-for-luxury-flats

J C was elected leader. All this trying to oust him makes the party look bad. The electorate wanted a shift to the left hence labours vit's in the GE He is principled (might not be your principles) and we shall have to see what happens next election. I'm annoyed at my mp for pushing one thing 9nly devolution then snapping at the bit to be leader of the tory preferred option that will do little for my area. Honestly couldn't see JC doing that he's been a good constituency MP.

And in Southend.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-42820424

"Residents of a housing association in Essex have criticised plans that could see their homes demolished.

Genesis Housing Association is considering the future of Alexandra Court in Southend, which could see it torn down and a new block built in its place with double the number of flats.

One woman spoke of her dismay after being told it was her "home for life".

Genesis has assured tenants they would be re-housed at the same rents if demolition was approved.

There are currently 262 flats in the block on Baxter Avenue.

Brenda Philips, who has lived in Alexandra Court for 34 years, told BBC Inside Out East she was worried about the plans.

"When we moved in here we were told this was our home for life, and suddenly it's not our home for life," she said.

She said she was also concerned at being moved out of her home for about 18 months while the new homes are being built.

"They've suggested to some of the residents here that they might move in to bed and breakfast accommodation or hotels, or we could go to Colchester or Chelmsford," she added"