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To feel sorry for this doctor?

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HarryStylesismycrack · 25/01/2018 16:05

I am not in any way downplaying the death of that beautiful little boy and it is clearly acknowledged there were some failures by the doctor in question however AIBU to feel as though this intervention by the GMC into the independent decision making by the MPTS is concerning? It appears to me that the MPTS took into account many things, not just the outcome (which I completely acknowledge is heartbreaking), the fact that this doctor was working the job of several other medical staff in an unfamiliar environment with significant IT issues with no senior input. It feels like this doctor has been made a bit of a scapegoat for huge systemic failures.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jack-adcock-latest-downs-syndrome-death-doctor-hadiza-babwa-garba-struck-off-general-medical-council-a8177721.html

A different link to a blog by other medical practitioners 54000doctors.org/blogs/an-account-by-concerned-uk-paediatric-consultants-of-the-tragic-events-surrounding-the-gmc-action-against-dr-bawa-garba.html

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SnowGoArea · 26/01/2018 13:34

You can read the whole case on the GMC website. There's just no mention of the fact that she was working the job of 4 doctors, that she couldn't access results easily once they were available because the IT systems were down, that one of the few juniors she did have was stuck on the phone trying to gather results, that it was her first day and had been given no trust induction or handover. None of it. The picture painted is of someone who just took her merry old time to realise the patient was very ill, by which time it was too late. No wonder the jury convicted her if none of that was clear. It acknowledges that she worked flawlessly afterwards, that she took multiple steps to access more training in response to what happened, that she was remorseful. The prosecution argued that basically it was in the publics best interests to do this to her, it wasn't meant to be punitive, we need to see doctors being held accountable for their mistakes I'm this way to retain any trust in the system. Which is bollocks.

It all stinks of the trust throwing the blame on her to protect themselves from legal action and spending money fixing their failures.

I hope she is reading this and realises that not everyone believes the horrible headlines.

I can understand why the family feel like this; it's an easy and obvious target for their grief. Nobody else has that excuse.

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/01/2018 13:35

Well, I suggest you read the whole thread, FruitCider. Especially the posts by experienced anaesthetists and intensivists re pH, acidosis, etc.

And the post by Cheekyy yesterday evening, which I will helpfully repost here:

"This is a letter that her supervisors wrote

For those who want more details, here's a letter from 3 paediatric consultants in relation to this case:

On 18th February 2011 Jack Adcock was admitted to Leicester Royal Infirmary with a history of severe gastro enteritis. He had previously had an AVSD repair, doing well, on enalapril. He had a temperature of 37.7 degrees centigrade, dehydration and shock. A Blood gas showed a Ph, 7.0, base deficit, -14, lactate 11 mmols. He was prescribed a fluid bolus and maintenance fluids. Blood tests including CRP were undertaken and a chest x –ray ordered. There was a delay of two and a half hours in review of chest x-ray during which time Jack showed some recovery, playing with the radiographer, drinking juice from his beaker, improvement in blood gas, to ph 7.24. Jack was moved off the Children’s Assessment Unit (CAU) to the wards, where an unprescribed dose of enalapril was administered. Approximately one hour later he suffered a collapse from which he was very sadly unable to be resuscitated.

The registrar that day was Dr Hadiza Bawa-Garba, a high flying doctor, with an unblemished record who had done considerable work for charitable causes just returned from 13 months maternity leave. Her last general paediatric post, ST4 commenced four years earlier in a DGH, outside Leicester. She had received no Trust induction. When she came to work that day she found that the registrar covering CAU was on training, away from the wards. Dr Bawa-Garba was requested to cover CAU as well as her own ward duties. Working under her were a foundation doctor and SHO. Both had only rotated to paediatrics that month. The consultant covering CAU was teaching outside the city

Provision of care was dogged by the break down in IT facilities for the whole hospital, meaning that the team were constantly phoning to try to get results. Even when back on line, the flag system for abnormal results was down. The nursing staff were hard pressed, with staffing and equipment shortages logged. Jack was looked after by an agency nurse with a certificate in adult nursing.

It is not clear what debrief for the staff involved was undertaken after the tragic events of that day, but Dr Bawa-Garba met with her consultant in the hospital canteen, where she felt under pressure to fill in areas of a trainee encounter form. She continued to work without problem and indeed with plaudits. A serious untoward incident inquiry was undertaken following the patient’s death, which was completed on 24th August 2012. A 14-person investigation team concluded that a single root cause for the death was unable to be identified. Numerous parts of the clinical process were identified as needing change. The report highlighted 23 recommendations and 79 actions that were undertaken by Leicester Royal Infirmary as a result of the organisational learning.

At the beginning of 2012 Dr Bawa-Garba was arrested and questioned two weeks after her next baby was born. She was detained by police for 7 hours away from her baby who was fully breast fed, refusing bottles and at risk of hypoglycaemia. Dr Bawa-Garba was in no state to face sustained police questioning and sign documents.

On 17th December 2014 Dr Bawa-Garba was charged with manslaughter on the grounds of gross negligence and found guilty on 4th November 2015, after 25 hours deliberation, on a majority verdict of 10 to 2. On 8th December 2016 she was denied leave to appeal. On 13th June 2017 she was suspended for a year by the Medical Practitioners Tribunal service. The GMC applied to over turn the MPTS suspension and instead to erase Dr Bawa-Garba from the medical register. Health Education England (HEE) withdrew Dr Bawa-Garba’s training number.

On 7th December 2017, considering the arguments surrounding the GMC case for erasure, the judge asked to know what was different about 18th February 2011, the day of the tragic events surrounding Jack’s death Jack’s admission. This may pre-suppose that all works smoothly on other days although we do not know the level of incidents, recorded or unrecorded error, near miss, death or disability from care on other days.

What we do know is as follows:

On this day: The team were relatively new due to the February change over and Dr Bawa-Garba had not received Trust induction.

On this day: The registrar covering CAU did not attend. Dr Bawa-Garba was doing their job.

On this day: The consultant covering CAU was in Warwick. Dr Bawa Garba was doing their job.

On this day: Due to hospital IT failure the Senior House Officer was delegated to phone for results from noon until 4pm. For this period Dr Bawa-Garba was doing their job.

Therefore on this day Dr Bawa-Garba did the work or three doctors including her own duties all day and in the afternoon the work of four doctors.

On this day: Neither Dr Bawa-Garba (due to crash bleep) nor the consultant (due to rosta) were able to attend morning handover, familiarise themselves with departmental patient load and plan the day’s work.

On this day: Dr Bawa-Garba, a trainee paediatrician, who had not undergone Trust induction, was looking after six wards, spanning 4 floors, undertaking paediatric input to surgical wards 10 and 11, giving advice to midwives and taking GP calls.

On this day: Even when the computer system was back on line, the results alerting system did not flag up abnormal results.

On this day: A patient who had shown a degree of clinical and metabolic recovery due to Dr Bawa-Garba’s entirely appropriate treatment of oxygen, fluids and antibiotics was given a dangerous blood pressure lowering medication (enalapril) which may have precipitated an arrest.

So what did Dr Bawa-Garba personally miss? Her initial treatment was felt to be good. She was not informed of Jack’s further diarrhoeal fluid losses by the nursing team. In terms of laboratory results she missed raised creatinine which arguably may have not affected the ongoing treatment in and of itself. She was unaware of the time of the chest x-ray, that she had correctly ordered, upload to the system, but as she had been personally undertaking procedures such as lumbar puncture and covering six ward areas, this must be understandable. No–one is all seeing. She correctly prescribed antibiotics as soon as she reviewed the x-ray.

Dr Bawa-Garba has inexplicably been held responsible for

-The fact that more senior staff did not apparently realise the implications of a blood gas result. Seniors supervise juniors, not vice versa.

-The fact that the nursing staff were not adequately supervised and supported to do their job. This is the role of nursing management.

-The fact unprescribed medication (enalapril) was given, not checked with the medical team. Dr Bawa-Garba could not take measures to counteract the effect of this medication, before patient deterioration into an arrest situation, as she was not informed enalapril had given.

-The fact that she did not personally apologise. Dr Bawa-Garba would have needed to obey all Trust and Medical Protection Society directives and the advice of her legal team with respect to communication with the patient’s tragically bereaved family.

Dr Bawa-Garba did mistakenly stop resuscitative efforts, confusing Jack with another patient, although this was not seen as contributory to the final tragic outcome. There had been confusing movement of patients of which Dr Bawa-Garba was not informed, so that when she was crash bleeped 13 hours after attending one arrest situation, having had no time for food, drink or a break, she raced to the area and wrongly assumed that she was going to the same patient. There were a minimum of 7 professionals in the cubicle, including Jack’s named professionals and equally senior, less exhausted paediatric and intensive care doctors leading or assisting the resuscitation. No–one queried Dr Bawa-Garba or double checked the name but rather they stopped resuscitative efforts on her word.

After these events, Nurse Amaro, an agency nursed trained in adult medicine, who had worked for 17 years with feedback attesting to a high level of performance, who was helping out CAU in a crisis, was struck off for 5 years. In her statement to the nursing and midwifery council she said nursing was her life and she had always wanted to be a nurse, because she wanted to help people. Some staff from the Trust who were working on the day have left voluntarily, with some moving abroad. Public statements from the Trust medical director say that improvements have been put in place to prevent similar tragedies. Dr Bawa-Garba awaits the decision of the Court of Appeal.

Signed:

Dr Lyvia Dabydeen, Consultant Paediatric Neurologist

Dr Hilary Klonin, Consultant Paediatric Intensivist

Dr Sethu Wariyar, Consultant in Paediatric Neurodisability"

(references in original post)

Angryosaurus · 26/01/2018 13:40

@fruitcider yes she made a mistake. But we can't punish all doctors and nurses who make a mistake like this. Can we?

Angryosaurus · 26/01/2018 13:45

Also do we actually know she didn’t refer to icu. Maybe she did, they reviewed and were happy he was improving with her correct treatment

FruitCider · 26/01/2018 13:47

I’ve skimmed through most of the thread and it’s becoming repetitive now so I’ve stopped.

I’m quite aware of what acidosis and lactate etc mean. Lougles points are very valid and I found myself nodding at their comments. Why on Earth wasn’t the whole sepsis 6 initiated? Why didn’t the doctor check the X-ray of a child with a blood ph of 7 and lactate of 11? Why was the child on a normal ward and not a PICU? And how did the hospital ever gain a culture of breaking the law by giving medicines which are not prescribed and not listed on a PGD?!???

I do feel sorry for the doctor as she was clearly overworked but she made a grave error by not following that X-ray up. And the nurses actions re administering a drug that is not prescribed are just inexcusable. We are all busy in the nhs - I had a shift from hell on Wednesday. But I didn’t neglect the patient that was discovered to have a systemic staph infections whose cognitive abilities were deteriorating. I stopped what I was doing and gave him 1:1 nursing care until the ambulance arrived despite only having 4 staff for 120 prisoners because that’s what he needed....

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/01/2018 13:49

THIS HAPPENED IN 2011. THERE WAS NO 'SEPSIS SIX' AT THAT TIME!!!

HarryStylesismycrack · 26/01/2018 13:50

For anyone who is interested here is a link to the MPTS hearing outcome. www.mpts-uk.org/static/documents/content/Dr_Hadiza_BAWA-GARBA_13_June_2017.pdf

It’s important to note they were assessing her fitness to practise with respect to her conviction and that the panel did take into account the multiple systemic failures (discovered and admitted on trust investigation) and the conduct of other staff and how they led to the failures of Dr Hadiza that day. Let’s not forget Dr Hadiza was investigated and interviewed by police in 2011 and was told she would face no charges. Interesting that the MPTS take the fact that no apology was given as an aggravating factor.

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x2boys · 26/01/2018 13:51

We don't know that the nurse did administer the drug though Fruit , it was given but it's not clear who gave it.

FruitCider · 26/01/2018 13:53

THIS HAPPENED IN 2011. THERE WAS NO 'SEPSIS SIX' AT THAT TIME!!!

There’s no need to be aggressive.

Anyway the sepsis 6 were developed in 2006 and implemented shortly afterwards.

FruitCider · 26/01/2018 13:54

We don't know that the nurse did administer the drug though Fruit , it was given but it's not clear who gave it.

How is it known it was given?

Angryosaurus · 26/01/2018 13:58

@fruitcider but in your example- what if you were 2 staff down last night. And you had more than one poorly prisoner. And you couldn’t do everything as carefully and immediately as they all needed. And a mistake happened?

x2boys · 26/01/2018 13:59

I don't know Fruit maybe it showed up in the blood results ? But the paediatricians letter states it was given by whom it isnt clear.

FruitCider · 26/01/2018 14:03

Angry I was 2 staff down on Wednesday we are meant to run on 2 nurses, 1 pharmacy tech and 3 HCAs. I had one nurse (me), 1 pharmacy tech and 2 HCAs, one of which I borrowed from elsewhere. I had 8 new detox patients, another 24 in the first 5 days of detox, and another 88 prisoners on the wing. It’s terrifying.

HarryStylesismycrack · 26/01/2018 14:05

An interesting piece in the BMJ that confirms my earlier thought that the court had not heard all evidence re systemic failures. Apologies as I can’t remember who questioned it. www.bmj.com/content/359/bmj.j5534

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x2boys · 26/01/2018 14:06

Quite Fruit and I was also a nurse in the NHS when wards /units etc are dangerously understaffed mistakes do happen but the blame shouldn't lie completely with the Dr and the nurse management should also take some responsibility for allowing this to happen.

HarryStylesismycrack · 26/01/2018 14:07

But fruitcider surely it is just good luck that meant another prisoner didn’t become life threateningly ill whilst you were nursing the one you described? Good luck and good fortune. It’s what gets us by as HCP’s most shifts. On this day Dr Hadiza ran out of good luck.

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FruitCider · 26/01/2018 14:17

Sometimes I have got more than 1 critically ill patient. Like I said, it’s terrifying:

lougle · 26/01/2018 14:17

@FruitCider, one thing I'm responsible for raising in error, having checked it out, is about PICU - LRI doesn't have a PICU, so there was no PICU to send him to. the CAU, where he was initially, was likely the most acute place for children in the hospital. I wonder if that's like a children's A&E? I am surprised that a 'ward' was the place to send a child with a pH of 7.24, but that's because, as I say, our 'sick' ITU patients have ABGs of that level.

Sepsis 6 has been around for a long time. We're on to the Sepsis-3 definition of Septic shock now (since 2016), so that's only 5 years after that happened. That's the 3rd iteration of sepsis criteria refinement. Sepsis really is that big a deal. It is fast moving, high risk, complete killer, but survivable.

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/01/2018 14:19

Identification and management of sepsis was patchy at best for many years.

It was for this very reason that Dr Ron Daniels founded the UK Sepsis Trust in 2012.

In 2013 The All-Party Parliamentary Group on sepsis is formed to draw cross-party attention to the need for better SEPSIS care in the UK.

In 2016 The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) joined forces with UKST to release a new guideline on sepsis and help improve the way sepsis is handled across the NHS.

Angryosaurus · 26/01/2018 14:20

I imagine the PICU is at Glenfield down the road. He should have gone there

HedgerowAnimal · 26/01/2018 14:22

I, too am shocked.

I also wondered if this particular doctor was more easily scapegoated because she is female, and a woman of colour.

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/01/2018 14:22

Cross-posted Lougle. The point I'm making is that it's only in recent years that there has been the huge focus on standardising identification and management throughout the NHS.

NemoRocksMyWorld · 26/01/2018 14:34

Leicester Royal infirmary do have a children's intensive care. I worked there. They call it CICU instead of PICU. There is usually a separate reg for CICU. The PICU in Glenfield is mostly for cardiac kids and ECMO.

x2boys · 26/01/2018 14:39

I think the Dr was scapegoated because she was the poor sod on duty when it happened rather than looking at the real reasons ie that she was overworked , hadent been given an adequeatec induction the unit was dangerously understaffed etc they scapegoated her ,imo it wouldn't have mattered what her colour ,religion etc was , when I was a nurse and serious untoward incidents occurred you just hoped it wasent you on duty when they did happen .

NemoRocksMyWorld · 26/01/2018 14:45

The CAU is a bit like a ward, but all children are assessed there (all Gp referrals and all a and e referrals). You clerk them there and initiate treatment. There are observation beds. You then decide whether they should go to the ward or be discharged. But it's a bit like A and E in that you have no control on numbers. What walks through the door walks through the door. I worked shifts there where it was like a war zone and there were kids everywhere. Problem is there is still a limited number of nurses. So it gets very difficult to do frequent observations and triage the new patients if the numbers get very high. As such there is a pressure to choose ward or home and move children ASAP. During the week this isn't such a problem because there is also a team on the ward to "accept" the patient and continue care. However out of hours (if I remember correctly) there is an sho covering the wards who has to follow up treatment. The reg has to either trust the sho to review or leave a very busy CAU (wait of six hours plus sometimes - but no one is measuring because it's not a and e).

She undoubtedly made grave errors, which had terrible consequences. But being a paeds reg is so hard. Your juniors are almost always gp trainees or foundation trainees with less than four months experience in paeds. You end up having to do a lot of procedures etc that shos would do in adults. And when shifts are busy time goes so fast, she probably meant to go back and review but four hours pass in a blink.