To need help responding about MLMs

[ObiJuanKenobi]

So afriend of mine started working for/with Younique about 2 years ago. At the start I was badgered into buying a lipstick - it was expensive and crap.
Ever since I've steered clear, left her Facebook group and turned off all notifications from her but my fuck is she relentless!!

She's just sent me the 4th private Facebook message in about 10days asking when I'm free for a catch up coffee but I'm terrified it's going to be a pitch

Please help me write a polite message that won't be a friendship ender but will get the message across that I'm a) not interested in joining her Hun team and b) i don't want to buy any overpriced make up or throw a party

Sad her son has lost a friend he played well with becuase she's fallen for this shit.

(And I bet your DS is not the first friend her son has lost out on due to his mum)

She’s brainwashed, just forget about her

Holy fuck! Yes good idea OP blocking her. She will never see the light!

I read the Elle beau blog as well. It was the way that everyone who didn't like the projects were described as haters. Also the bitchness and infighting. You are well rid op, she will have not friends left if she carries on

Wow that escalated quickly! Your life will be better for not having her in it. What a cow.

I hope you went NC with them Greyponcho. Who the hell would do that, they really have no shame do they

Wow. Totally admire you for blocking her.

Greyponcho that’s dreadful

@evilharpy it's an 'inspirational quote' basically calling me a jealous hater I think

What a nightmare. I would be tempted to ask her to explain what she meant. Be really persistent and precise. Are you supposed to be the hater? Are you supposed to be doing less well than her? Why, then, are you free for coffee or soft play but she has to see all these things as work? And so on, to all of her responses, just ask why and can she explain. It might just be one last chance to get her to realise what is going on.

It shouldn't be your responsibility. She treated you very badly. But she is being abused by these companies and for the sake of a few more minutes sending messages, I would think it worth a try.

There is good advice also on the Timeless Vie page about what to do if you have a friend like yours.

Our kids are only toddlers so won't remember but my dtwins always want to play with her ds at playgroups and parties, they don't really bother with other kids much.
She won't be invited to my wedding later this year after this, especially after @Greyponcho post!! What the fuck is wrong with people!?

It's about time a journalist went undercover to expose MLM- how about it then daily fail, do some proper reporting for once

I’d send her a link to this thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3144373-MLM-Bot-Watch-35-how-to-lose-friends-and-alienate-people-with-Younique-Forever-Living-Juice-Plus-Arbonne-Crypto-currency-and-tea-and-coffee-MLM-cults?pg=2 Just gonna leave this here

@Rumbaintheraindrops I agree we could do with watch dog covering it - people are being taken advantage of, it's almost like a cult!

Oh good grief, that quote from her well, if that's the way she wants to play it...

Send her this/ post this somewhere you know she'll see. This is one of my favourite segments that John Oliver has ever done, it's an absolute epic takedown of MLMs and it's SO funny!

I distanced myself significantly when I found that out, but it was the “inspirational” memes about how “depression was just worrying about the past, anxiety was just worrying about the future” amongst other trite shit about how great it is to “take control” of their own futures (unlike those of us getting nowhere working for corporations).
(Their own DM had depression ffs!)
Only once that stopped, did I make contact again.

True confession hear but I do Tropic.... in my defence I don't do it to make a living but to raise money for charity. All the comments have made me thing though. I'd be horrified that if my friends and family thought felt this way. OP - thought your email was great...point politely made. If she doesn't take the hint then....... hope you do have a great time at coffee.

I forgot to mention my MIL had a friend who did forever living. One day my mum came rushing into our house gushing about her friends aloe juice that can cure my epilepsy and she had got me some 😡 Mil got told by my DH not to do it again asked for her friend details and sent her a stern email. The friend emailed back with all these claims again so he reported her to trading standards who said they would look into it. Not sure what happened but she doent sell it anymore

I hage MLM. Hate it. I am self-employed, work for myself at home and see the sheer terror which comes over people's faces when I tell them that. They automatically assume I'm going to launch into a pitch for whatever shite other people are flogging and so I have to immediately say that I'm not that sort of self-employed, I have a proper job and no I have no interest in convincing them to join me.

It wrecks friendships as these minions are encouraged to see everyone - and their partners - as a prospect for sales. It's relentless and it's mind control, women (and it's always women) who aren't making money are told it's because they're not working hard enough or not doing it properly.

People don't make money out of MLMs and those who post pictures of new cars or houses are lying or at lease being economical with the truth. This sort of pyramid selling is an outrage, and should be illegal.

I’ve dne the supportive bit before, slightly different circumstances though ; friend went all ‘earth mother artist’, and wanted to seek her creations online. Helped her set up social media accounts, etsy etc bit of SEO Constant requests to add this, amend that, she kept locking herself out of accounts as she forgot passwords Tgen she wanted a website, so built that (admit it was template Wordpress, but did the logo etc, personalised). Explained to run updates.... three years of her hounding me to fix this, update this. I work full time, I study part time, so I’m busy. Final straw came when she rang, whatsapped me, FB messenged me and then text my DH as it was urgent - found out she wanted to change payment providers and got shitty as I wouldn’t jump right on it. On my birthday. Recently went to Oz to the city she lives, didn’t bother letting her know we were there... so she PMd me wanting to know if we could come round for dinner and she could show me ideas for her new business. I get people get excited about their new ‘businesses’ but reel it in.

DS plays with a boy from a different school at after school club. He wants him to come over but his mum is a MLM bot (from looking her up on FB - I don't actually know her) so I'm putting it off......

If you want to know the sort of thing your friend is going through, why not have a read through this. If nothing else, it's an entertaining (and slightly chilling) way to spend half an hour.

ellebeaublog.com/poonique/

If she used to be a good friend of yours, why not let her know that once she gets over this whole thing, you'll be there waiting to support her but until such time as the penny drops you won't enable her behaviour.

People aren't perfect, we all make mistakes. I wouldn't drop a friend for screwing up like this - just be there for her when she needs you again.

I've had something similar too. I had to remove a friend of over 49 years off Facebook and then the friendship went too.
Her and her husband were really into juice plus. She did lose a ton of weight and looked fabulous but it was the relentless promoting of it that got me. He would write about 'neg ferrets' (had to google that one) 'haters' 'people who are jealous of successful people' and my all time favourite 'it's a no brainer' etc etc.
The last straw was when they put up a status about juice plus chewables which are apparently for kids and saying something along the lines of if you didn't give your kids these chewables you were a bad parent. Do I just removed them, sad but it was doing my head in.

Her 'hubster' is still doing MLM but has been into lots of different ones; Ariix, the 'opportunity company, selling energy to people on Facebook and is now into Bitcoin which apparently he puts up Facebook lives trying to get people into it.