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to think this is how future wars will start?

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MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 21/01/2018 20:44

I have just been reading on Twitter that with current consumption Cape Town is set to run dry of water on 21/04.
Residents are currently limited to 87L each but more than 60% are using more that the restricted amount so as of 01/02 the new limit will be 50l.

Does anyone else think this will be the kind of stuff the new wars are fought over? Literally battles to exist because of a lack of water. Sanitation we be out the window, the stench will be horrendous, riots will take over and people will die of disease and dehydration.

How have we fucked this planet is so badly?

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MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 21/01/2018 20:45

beta.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-south-africa-water-crisis-20180119-story.html

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MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 24/01/2018 13:47

SOrry to bounce my own thread but I’m growing more and more horrified by this as the days go by.

Day Zero for Cape Town is now expected to be 11/04.

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araiwa · 24/01/2018 13:52

Yep.

Environmental issues will cause massive global issues- war, immigration, famine etc

MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 24/01/2018 13:56

Just seeing on the Twitter Moment that a man in a suburb went in and bought every bottle of water on the shelves of a supermarket and when a woman asked if she could have one he said “no they are mine”.

This is terrifying.

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EsmesRedPetticoat · 24/01/2018 13:59

My secondary school geography teacher circa 1994 predicted that the next world war will be fought over water resources.

Rebeccaslicker · 24/01/2018 14:03

Water and food I think.

The current waves of migration to Europe will be nothing compared to what happens next, I suspect.

DGRossetti · 24/01/2018 14:24

Tap Lake Victoria ?

Waters a bit of a nuisance, and tends to be in all the wrong places.

I vaguely recall Loch Ness holds more freshwater than all the other lakes in the UK combined. Shame it's not inside the M25.

(Cynically, there are an awful lot of people who have a vested interest in keeping water, food and other basic human needs scarce)

EggsonHeads · 24/01/2018 14:28

It would be both easier and cheaper to just build proper irrigation/water capture/desalination systems. Go catastrophise about something less ridiculous.

stayathomegardener · 24/01/2018 14:31

This is why fracking is such an issue.

MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 24/01/2018 14:38

Eggs, what exactly happens whilst people wait for that to be built and there’s no water supply?

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DGRossetti · 24/01/2018 14:39

It would be both easier and cheaper to just build proper irrigation/water capture/desalination systems.

True.

So why isn't it being done ?

Go catastrophise about something less ridiculous.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooo !

Runningoutofusernames · 24/01/2018 14:43

Water rights already cause a lot of global conflict, and it's only growing - www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-a-lack-of-water-cause-wars/

springtulip · 24/01/2018 14:43

Do you mean 11th April this year?

ihatethecold · 24/01/2018 14:43

Someone mentioned this to me last weekend but I hadn’t heard this news story. I watch the news every day and read online. It’s disappointing it’s not a bigger news story.

teaandtoast · 24/01/2018 14:44

I was reading about this last night. It seems so...unreal that a major city can simply run out of water.

MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 24/01/2018 14:44

Spring - yes this year.

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DGRossetti · 24/01/2018 14:52

unreal that a major city can simply run out of water.

London had standpipes in 1976.

springtulip · 24/01/2018 14:53

But they've had warnings since 2004 and rejected the idea of desalination plants as too costly.

Kursk · 24/01/2018 14:53

Resource wars will break out due to overcrowding and overpopulation.

Polite society is only a thin veneer, it won’t take much to bring out our animal survival instincts. Think of the Black Friday frenzy over cheap TV’s.......if people fight over a TV, what will they do when the food runs out!

Rebeccaslicker · 24/01/2018 14:55

A friend of mine who is an ex US marine had the following advice for anyone who wants to live beyond about 2025 (he was being tongue in cheek, but you know many a true word and all that):

Buy a plot of land
Learn how to cultivate vegetables
Buy a gun

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Kursk · 24/01/2018 15:16

Buy a plot of land yep
Learn how to cultivate vegetables yep
Buy a gun yep

Start to stockpile food water and fuel. This is no joke by the time you realize you need this stuff, it’s already too late and you will be dead soon.

DGRossetti · 24/01/2018 15:29

A friend of mine who is an ex US marine had the following advice for anyone who wants to live beyond about 2025 (he was being tongue in cheek, but you know many a true word and all that):

Buy a plot of land
Learn how to cultivate vegetables
Buy a gun

I take it they weren't an officer ? Grin

Personally, just get a gun. Then you can get all the land, food and labour you need.

(Bearing in mind guns are only of use as long as you have ammunition. If the balloon really went up, who's going to be making that ? Although the resultant attempts of people who didn't pay attention in science to make gunpowder would have a population-thinning effect Smile).

DGRossetti · 24/01/2018 15:32

There was a serious plan to tow icebergs to Africa to provide fresh water. I think it was shelved after people objected to the view from their beach houses being spoiled Hmm.

www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2017-10-16-capewatergate-could-towing-an-iceberg-to-cape-town-help-solve-future-water-problems/

Bear in mind quite a few people reading this now were born long after we put a man on the moon.

Nquartz · 24/01/2018 15:35

(Bearing in mind guns are only of use as long as you have ammunition. If the balloon really went up, who's going to be making that ? Although the resultant attempts of people who didn't pay attention in science to make gunpowder would have a population-thinning effect

Not a funny thread (quite terrifying in fact) but this did make me chuckle Grin

taskmaster · 24/01/2018 15:37

Somebody has been reading too many post-apoc novels, hey?