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To cut my drinker mother off despite finding out heartbreaking facts

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Hannah1x · 19/01/2018 20:25

My mother is a binge drinker and has been for the past 6 years. For as long as I can remember she's struggled in life with depression, constant irritable moods and learning difficulties. I had an undesirable childhood to say the least, although fortunately she wasn't a drinker when i was growing up. She abandoned me at 16 and moved back to the city she grew up, we regained contact and when I was 22 I moved here to the same city and we gradually rebuild a fractured relationship.

Her drinking has caused alot of friction in the family as we can't handle her behaviour, she will show herself up, shout swear and argue with those around her. I've threatened to go no contact multiple times but she doesn't take me seriously (or doesn't care as she's previously shown) and continues drinking.

On Sunday I gave birth to a wonderful baby boy, my mum visited us at home on Tuesday accompanied by my aunt. She was sober and in seemed totally in awe of her grandson, she promised she would kick the drink now for him because she wanted to be a support to us and make amends for the past. I told her i would love that but can't have her anywhere near us in drink and she said she understood and would make an effort to sort her habit out.

I needed to replace the innertube on my pram otherwise I wouldn't be able to get to the shops, she offered to take the old one to a shop and have it replaced then bring it straight back in the morning. I said its ok and she insisted, she wanted to help. Long story short she didn't turn up with it and when I called her she was paraletic, I was now stuck in the house and couldn't get to the shops. She made a conscious decision to go and drink herself stupid knowing me and my newborn were reliant on her in order to get out the house.

I told her it was the final straw, I could forgive her letting me down but I wasn't having her lifestyle impact my son. I decided I didn't want her around him at all and she wouldn't be seeing us. I blocked her number.

Today my aunt comes round and we discuss my mum. My aunt says she has something to tell me but doesn't know whether she should be doing. She then tells me that when my mum was a teenager she was abused by her brother, an uncle I've never met, and she believes that's the reason for her drinking.

I'm floored. I love my mother dearly and the thought of somebody she trusted hurting her breaks my heart. She is vulnerable and always has been. Despite putting me through alot growing up i would give my right arm for her to be okay.

In light of those revelations I feel horrible for cutting contact between me her and my son, but I absolutely can't have him exposed to the way she is. I have to safeguard him and put his best interests first, she's not somebody stable enough to play a role as grandmother at the minute. I couldn't trust her with him.

She doesn't want to help herself or accept help from others so I'm at a loss as to what to do. Aibu to be taking the stance I'm taking in light of what I've found out?

My heart is breaking for her but at the same time I can't ignore the way she's choosing to live. I've tried for years to get her to get help with the drink, helped her as much as I could. We all have demons, I know I do, but I can't let hers affect my little boy.

OP posts:
onalongsabbatical · 19/01/2018 20:33

Aw, honey, I didn't want to read and say nothing. You sound amazing, so strong and clear. You are absolutely right to put yourself and your DS first - congratulations, by the way! - and it's such early days. Honestly this isn't the time to make long term decisions about anything. I'm a bit shocked that your aunt thinks that this is a good time to tell you about your mum. It's too much for you to take any responsibility for your mum's mental health right now, no matter what's happened to her. Please just take care of yourself and your baby, and let yourself slowly take in this new information without any pressure to do anything about it. Ultimately your mum has to WANT to change and WANT help, and that's out of your hands. Really hope that this is helpful. Flowers

Gladiola44 · 19/01/2018 20:35

Agree with pp. Don’t make a cut and dried decision now. Just take one day at a time. Flowers

Jamiefraserskilt · 19/01/2018 20:38

Your mum has had a tough past but her present and future are under her control. If she wants any part of her grandchild's life, she needs to get help, starting with a trip to her gp. Your aunt can help her with this. A programme can start now, with AA.

I get your conflict and this is not your fault. As a family, boundaries need to be set and everyone onside. You cannot allow her to be around your lo if she is worse for the gargle.

Sending hugs

Notasperfectasallothermners · 19/01/2018 20:39

She needs you to support her as your dm firstly. Keep your dc out of the equation just now,
Offer to help her find AA support, if she agrees then take it from there .

YearOfYouRemember · 19/01/2018 20:41

It seems the in thing to blame twatty behaviour on past abuse.

My mother had a fractured childhood. She did her best to make sure I did too. I'm doing my best to make sure mine have a good life and they do.

I'd leave her blocked, ask a friend to help re the pram and just ignore her for a while forever

Liara · 19/01/2018 20:44

You can't help the past, and she can't help the past, but what she can do something about is the future.

If she is willing to work on her alcoholism, including accessing all the support available to her, then I think giving her a bit of time to sort herself out is fair enough.

However if it is just words, and she's not actually doing anything concrete towards tackling her problem, then you have to put your child's interests first.

lightcola · 19/01/2018 20:45

What happened to your mum is awful but she has a responsibility to do something to help her manage it better than getting drunk. You are responsible for you and your son. My father is an alcoholic. It is tough because you have a parent you can’t rely on. I am in touch with him but he only sees my children when he is sober and I wlll never leave them with him, not even for an hour. Please don’t feel guilty. Encourage your mum to get help. And remember her behaviour is not your responsibility

DesignedForLife · 19/01/2018 20:47

Focus on your baby right now. You are absolutely right to refuse to let him be around someone who is drunk. Let it cool, assume she's not going to change, and offer to find her some help.

LivelyMummy · 19/01/2018 20:49

OP I really feel for you. Don't cut all contact in a rushed decision. If I were you I would have some ground rules e.g. That she has to be sober when she visits you and DC. Ask your aunt to try to get her to go for counselling if there are unresolved issues from her past. Good luck

LizzieSiddal · 19/01/2018 20:50

Yanbu

It’s your job as a Mum to put your DS first. You need to keep her away from him unless she gets help and becomes sober.
You are not responsible for her. It’s awful that she was abused but she needs to get help for herself.

I had a similar situation with my Mum. She abandoned my brother and I when I was 3 but didn’t become an alcoholic for another 10 years, but she was very unreliable and I was not close to her. When I had DD1 she also became very interested in me and our family. Unfortunately she let us down time after time. We tried to get help but nothing helped and eventually we went no contact.

You have to do what’s best for you and your family, do not feel guilty Flowers

CorbynsBumFlannel · 19/01/2018 20:56

I wouldn't cut contact but I wouldn't leave your son with her or have her around him if she'd been drinking.
I wouldn't say that her not getting your inner tube affected your son dramatically. It was inconvenient for you but I'm sure your son didn't mind a day indoors in this weather. Could your aunt get it for you or mind your son while you do?
Has your mum had/is she getting any professional help for the abuse she suffered or her drinking?

Hannah1x · 19/01/2018 20:58

We as a family have been trying to get her help for years. I've railroaded her to the doctors to no avail, my aunt has taken her to an alcoholic support group which she refused to partake in, she won't even talk about the drink and is adamant that she's fine and she knows her limits - She doesn't. It's all about her, how she's ok and never how her behaviour impacts others.

I must admit I'm not best pleased with my aunt dropping this bombshell now while my hormones are still all over the place. I'm even less happy about the fact she's known about it for all these years and never told a soul, not even my dear grandparents when they were alive. How could you know your vulnerable sister was being abused and not say a word? I don't understand.

I wouldn't rule out supervised contact in the future if she does ever get help, I just don't have the energy for the ups and downs right now and need to focus on my newborn.

Thank you. I think I just needed to hear that I'm not being horrible. I really do feel it.

OP posts:
Hannah1x · 19/01/2018 21:02

@corbynsbumflannel

That's a fair comment to make, to be honest the innertube didn't affect us that badly. I think what did it for me was the realisation that we absolutely cannot rely on her and I had half convinced myself I wojld be able to so I was hurt she would choose to go and drink leaving us in the lurch despite professing how much she wanted to help

OP posts:
LizzieSiddal · 19/01/2018 21:07

No you’re not horrible.

As I said, you're choosing to put your child first. Something which she couldn’t do for you. You’re breaking the cycle and being a fantastic mum.

You’re also right to be very pissed of with your aunt. She should not have told you this now.

My brother and I had a saying for our Mum “She never fails to disappoint”. Unfortunately it was very true and I think it’s true for many children of alcoholic parents. Sad

afrikat · 19/01/2018 21:10

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

I would highly recommend trying to go to an al-anon meeting if you can. It was a massive help to me (my dad was an alcoholic). I spent so many years trying to help him, trying to fix him, believing that one day he would realise how much he loved his kids and therefore would stop drinking. Al-Anon helped me realise that none of that was on me, nothing I did would ever help and no matter what the reasons behind the drinking they will never stop unless they want to, and unless they get the right support for themselves.

I knew my dad would never stop drinking but I managed to forge a relationship with him but I'd keep it to short visits and would never let him hold the baby

MissConductUS · 19/01/2018 21:10

I'm a recovering alcoholic with 23 years of sobriety and I don't buy the idea that her alcoholism is the result of some trauma or abuse. Addiction is a medical disorder. I was never abused and I know people who were abused who didn't become alcoholics.

Your mum should start by discussing her drinking with her GP and seeing if there's any medical support that can be offered and start going to AA or another support group like it.

For you I'd recommend looking into Al Anon www.al-anonuk.org.uk/. They're a brilliant support organization for those with alcoholic family members. With a new baby you won't have much time for meetings but you may find useful resources on their website.

And finally, I think you're doing a great job with coping with your mum and congratulations on your baby. SmileFlowers

pointythings · 19/01/2018 21:11

You don't have to cut her off, but you do have to set boundaries. That means not letting her in the house if she is not sober, never leaving your DS alone with her, not relying on her for anything and not believing a single one of her promises. Protect yourself, do nothing to enable her. You can support her, but it will have to be in a detached way. Whatever happened to her in the past, she has to be the one to deal with it - and that means seeking help to overcome both the abuse and her drink problem. That is entirely her responsibility.

Thisnamechanger · 19/01/2018 21:13

You sound really lovely and caring and you're in a completely horrible situation Flowers

Having said that I sympathise thoroughly with each and every abuse survivor.

Everyone deals with things differently and it fucks you up about as much as possible.

Snowballeww · 19/01/2018 21:19

My mother was an alcoholic. I'm not sure that this addiction is a medical disorder in the early days. She CHOSE to use drink as a prop to get her through every day, gradually increasing her reliance on it until she couldn't manage a day without it. Then it became a medical disorder. At many points in the early days of her drinking she could have stopped with will power - she managed to give up a 30 year smoking habit with no help.
We all have ups and downs in life, it's up to the individual as to how they decide to deal with it. You have to make a conscious choice to buy drink and swallow it. It's not a medical disorder.
By the way I went NC 2 years before my mother died from septicaemia from ascites and organ failure. She had let me down too many times and I decided enough was enough.
I didn't feel sorry about after she had gone, I am at peace with my decision. I hope you get peace too OP, look after yourself and your DS. Your mother will put the drink first every time.

Nims45 · 19/01/2018 21:20

I used to be a binge drinker and had to hit several 'rock bottoms' before I gave up. When I did give up I had to leave my old life and old friends behind and return to my family home in a different city for a while to get well.

I think what made me give up was, in the end, really grasping that I had lost so much time, lost so many opportunities, I had essentially lost out on life, for a long time, and put myself in some very dodgy situations.

What I am trying to say is that losing you and your new baby - her grandson - might make her realise how far she has fallen. Of course, it might make her go the other way and drink more. I don't know. I just wanted to make the point about loss and wasted time.

Thisnamechanger · 19/01/2018 21:23

Actually sorry OP I just realised that sounds a bit like I'm excusing her behaviour, I'm not, just saying I can understand how it happens. The effects of abuse are so very complicated.

OverTheParapet · 19/01/2018 21:26

I agree with PP the effects of abuse are complex and can be life long. However now you have your own child will you allow her reaction to the abuse (which I am not minimising) effect your son as it has you?

My Father was abused horribly. He abused me sexually, emotionally and physically. I went NC 13 years ago because he couldn't? Wouldn't? Deal with his behaviours as a result of the abuse. I have broken that cycle and will not allow it to impact on my children.

Thisnamechanger · 19/01/2018 21:29

Fucking hell over you poor thing. Sad

LizzieSiddal · 19/01/2018 21:31

Over Flowers

OverTheParapet · 19/01/2018 21:36

Thank you both but honestly it was the best thing I've ever done. OP you need to be the one to break this cycle. Do it for yourself and your child. If your mum sorts herself out and you want her back in your lives that's fab if you want it. But right now save your anger, sympathy, empathy and peddle it into changing it for you both

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