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Quorn: WTF Is it?

164 replies

MissMisery · 15/01/2018 16:40

Background... Lifelong veggie, regularly ate soya mince as a meat alternative during younger days, but more and more over the years have been eating and enjoying quorn.

I never really questioned its origins, after all, Mo Farah tells us its good! And it's low fat, far smaller carbon footprint and so on.. And I'm sure they used to say something on the packet about mushrooms from Marlow (what could be more wholesome?!)
So to my mind, it was a mushroom based product. Only it isn't......

The penny dropped whilst at a friends house. She had made a chicken curry for the meat-eaters, and had very kindly made a quorn version for me. Her dh, who is very much a 'meat and two veg' type of bloke positivlely balked when I suggested he try the quorn version. His reaction: "You couldn't pay me to eat that stuff... I was at ICI when they developed it".

Developed At ICI??!! What about the lovely mushrooms from Marlow?? A quick google search has confirmed what he said. It WAS developed by ICI, and Quorn have actually been in trouble here with advertising standards(and in the US) for suggesting it is mushroom based.

It is, of course 'mycro-protein' and a type of fungus or bacteria. This is I suppose, a natural product, but what concerns me is the process they use to texture it, which they seem rather reluctant to divulge, and does not need to be listed under ingredients. I suppose this could be an understandable desire to protect their method of preparation, but something about this is really starting to bother me.

Have I just been spectacularly naive? (I'm pre-empting a chorus of 'Of course it's ghastly artificial shite!!!' here..)

I would very much like to be reassured as to its safety, particularly as my dc eat it too. Also any alternative to the meat industry has to be a good thing..

I would love to hear from anyone with a food science background.

Thanks in advance for any input.

OP posts:
DorisDangleberry · 15/01/2018 19:45

I always thought that Quorn was cow bogeys

DailyMaileatmyshit · 15/01/2018 19:48

small plant but I might think it was Linda McCartney or Asda own, neither of which are quorn.

I don't eat quorn because I don't like it. Same as I don't eat sprouts because I don't like them.

ShowOfHands · 15/01/2018 19:50

This thread is revealing. I had Quorn for the first and only time recently. I had such a violent upset stomach and agonising cramps that I swore never to eat it again. Everybody else was fine and I was the only one to eat the Quorn.

SheRaaarghPrincessOfPower · 15/01/2018 19:51

Yes, that's exactly what I meant Hmm

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 15/01/2018 19:52

I am avoiding meat but I don’t like the idea of it either to be honest

It’s processed food to the umpteenth degree

I am partial to a cauldron sausage though so need to google them !!!

I think I can easily live without any of the meat subs to be honest . For example she could have made your curry with sweet potato and spinach instead

yaaass · 15/01/2018 19:53

Really laughing at the hysteria on this thread. Why is everyone freaking out that it's made in a lab? If you eat anything processed, then do some research on how it's produced, I mean come on!

Smallplant · 15/01/2018 19:55

"they might expect it to be a soy or nut substitute"

They wouldn't. As we've never eaten or cooked with those in our lives, and always cook with Quorn. Just as our friends/family will cook with Quorn for us when we visit. But again, thanks.

I think the normal thing to do if you have a food intolerance that makes you sick is to mention it to your host yourself before going to dinner, actually. I'm know people with nut allergies, seafood allergies, gluten intolerance etc have to do this, rather than waiting for their host to check with them. I'd think people with Quorn intolerance could manage it too.

SheRaaarghPrincessOfPower · 15/01/2018 19:55

This thread is pissing me off.

susurration · 15/01/2018 19:55

I think I read somewhere that most allergies are protein or acid based reactions. Quorn is a mould based protein. It also is not vegan, it contains milk powder and in some cases egg powder.

I'm allergic to quorn, gives me what can only be described as gastro-enteritis and also a splotchy rash on my tummy and back.

Chirpychirpycheapcheap · 15/01/2018 19:59

Quorn makes me think of a joke a work colleague told me.

'You hear Mo Farah has been accused of doping?'
'Really?'
'Yeah' he must be on something. I just seen him on tv trying to say Quorn is tasty!'

Grin
Jaygee61 · 15/01/2018 20:04

Had a Quorn peppered steak the other night, it was lovely. No effect on my guts.

HannaSolo · 15/01/2018 20:09

I and my family eat it with no ill consequences.

I know it's grown in a lab and I have no problem with that. It's not the greatest but tbh it's protein that absorbs flavours pretty well.

Loads of people were raving about the "impossible burger" which apparently looks and tastes so close to meat that despite not containing any animal matter vegetarians were put off eating it. Meat eaters were mainly very surprised how good it was (it even has "blood") . All developed in a lab.

Main focus was to try and create "non meat" for meat eaters that was so good you'd get people to switch and get more people eating less real meat thus reducing production and the impact to the environment.

They started with a burger and are still perfecting it but plan to produce other "meat" in time. The project is being backed by some very well known people.

Tbh I really don't see what the problem is and think we will see more initiatives like this. If that all goes towards reducing meat consumption and environmental harm then surely that's a good thing.

Jellykat · 15/01/2018 20:09

Like some others have said, Quorn really upsets my stomach, so i never eat it.

Weedsnseeds1 · 15/01/2018 20:11

Some people are intolerant to it, the vast majority aren't.
It's a fungus based protein, not soylent green!

Fekko · 15/01/2018 20:11

Like most foods then, eh?

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 15/01/2018 20:15

Wow, it's very interesting, I was a veggie for 6 years and my main meat substitute was quoin.
However about 6 years ago I had Noe of their pies and it made me vomit.

Ever since I've really disliked the taste and it's made me poorly, interesting that it seems to do that to so many people on this thread

beepbeeprichie · 15/01/2018 20:15

I love it. I'm not a veggie but I try to feed us 4/7 meat free. You can make a tasty spag Bol or chili in 20 minutes and it's low fat. If I cook with meat I want it to be free range and that can be expensive. Quorn dippers make an excellent substitute for those grim birds eye chicken things. I would hate to see what happens to those animals and what goes into those. I'd rather eat the spores. Grin

WaggyMama · 15/01/2018 20:20

soylent green!

Spangles7 · 15/01/2018 20:22

I believe it is a "mushroom" in the sense that it's a fungus related to athletes foot

Gingernaut · 15/01/2018 20:23

Chemically processed mould with added egg.

Fekko · 15/01/2018 20:27

Mmmmm, the marketing bods missed a trick with that description!

MockneyReject · 15/01/2018 20:28

justforall.com/en-us/stories/clean-meat

I'm very excited about this.
I contacted the team when I first heard about it, as I wasn't convinced it was for real. It is.

Thinkofanumber · 15/01/2018 20:41

We're not a vegetarian family (DH used to be one), but we always use Quorn mince for bolognese sauce. Also, it's really handy as you can use it straight from the freezer.

I made bolognese with minced beef a few weeks ago and it wasn't well received - 'please make it like you normally do next time', the only thing I had changed was the mince.

Never had any digestive issues and been eating it for 15 years.

drivingmisspotty · 15/01/2018 21:02

It's interesting how if you took this thread as a representative sample you would think the vast majority of people are allergic to quorn. Of course we're the ones that are posting! (I am also allergic, ate it happily for years when a full time veggie but last couple of times I have had it have almost went to hospital with severe abdominal pain before the, ahem, relief provided by massive wind Blush)

If you say 'everything is chemicals'/'lots of things are grown in a lab' I think you are being a little bit pedantic though. I think people's suspicions are really that this is something new to our diet that we can't be sure of the effects of. That coupled with some violent reactions is a bit off-putting.

I am not outright prejudiced about this kind of food but I do have some wondering about quorn...
-does the energy required to produce it and the additives to flavour it actually still leave it better on carbon than meat?

  • it obviously needs plenty of flavouring. Should I be worried about the artificial flavours on it? Or even about the amount of salt it probably has which is super natural but we know causes humans problems?
-do we really need to buy into the idea of new lab produced foods? If we all are a natural, veggie diet wouldn't we have enough to go around anyway? (In fact the problem now is not so much how much food the planet produces as how it is distributed).
drivingmisspotty · 15/01/2018 21:02

It's interesting how if you took this thread as a representative sample you would think the vast majority of people are allergic to quorn. Of course we're the ones that are posting! (I am also allergic, ate it happily for years when a full time veggie but last couple of times I have had it have almost went to hospital with severe abdominal pain before the, ahem, relief provided by massive wind Blush)

If you say 'everything is chemicals'/'lots of things are grown in a lab' I think you are being a little bit pedantic though. I think people's suspicions are really that this is something new to our diet that we can't be sure of the effects of. That coupled with some violent reactions is a bit off-putting.

I am not outright prejudiced about this kind of food but I do have some wondering about quorn...
-does the energy required to produce it and the additives to flavour it actually still leave it better on carbon than meat?

  • it obviously needs plenty of flavouring. Should I be worried about the artificial flavours on it? Or even about the amount of salt it probably has which is super natural but we know causes humans problems?
-do we really need to buy into the idea of new lab produced foods? If we all are a natural, veggie diet wouldn't we have enough to go around anyway? (In fact the problem now is not so much how much food the planet produces as how it is distributed).