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Quorn: WTF Is it?

164 replies

MissMisery · 15/01/2018 16:40

Background... Lifelong veggie, regularly ate soya mince as a meat alternative during younger days, but more and more over the years have been eating and enjoying quorn.

I never really questioned its origins, after all, Mo Farah tells us its good! And it's low fat, far smaller carbon footprint and so on.. And I'm sure they used to say something on the packet about mushrooms from Marlow (what could be more wholesome?!)
So to my mind, it was a mushroom based product. Only it isn't......

The penny dropped whilst at a friends house. She had made a chicken curry for the meat-eaters, and had very kindly made a quorn version for me. Her dh, who is very much a 'meat and two veg' type of bloke positivlely balked when I suggested he try the quorn version. His reaction: "You couldn't pay me to eat that stuff... I was at ICI when they developed it".

Developed At ICI??!! What about the lovely mushrooms from Marlow?? A quick google search has confirmed what he said. It WAS developed by ICI, and Quorn have actually been in trouble here with advertising standards(and in the US) for suggesting it is mushroom based.

It is, of course 'mycro-protein' and a type of fungus or bacteria. This is I suppose, a natural product, but what concerns me is the process they use to texture it, which they seem rather reluctant to divulge, and does not need to be listed under ingredients. I suppose this could be an understandable desire to protect their method of preparation, but something about this is really starting to bother me.

Have I just been spectacularly naive? (I'm pre-empting a chorus of 'Of course it's ghastly artificial shite!!!' here..)

I would very much like to be reassured as to its safety, particularly as my dc eat it too. Also any alternative to the meat industry has to be a good thing..

I would love to hear from anyone with a food science background.

Thanks in advance for any input.

OP posts:
donquixotedelamancha · 15/01/2018 18:17

at the time the bacteria to make vegetarian rennet were genetically modified (not sure if this still hold true)

I think most bacteria and molds used to make synthetic protein foods are GM these days. Being GM is in no way harmful.

Personally, I don't know how people who eat fruits and vegetables can live with themselves:

donquixotedelamancha · 15/01/2018 18:18

science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pain.htm

20PoundsOfCrazyInA5PoundBag · 15/01/2018 18:25

Its from the same family as mushrooms and yeah it's processed just like flour is. If you get a bad tummy with it that just means you are allergic. Its healthy, low in fat, high in fibre and protein. There's nothing bad about it. People just love drama

LegallyBrunet · 15/01/2018 18:33

I'm not sure what it is but my mum is veggie and severely allergic to it. She was in hospital two years ago after eating a burger in a restaurant that had quorn in but didn't mention it on the menu.

BertieBotts · 15/01/2018 18:36

Surely in this day and age we should be encouraging man made food sources. To keep mining our planet for natural food sources isn't going to be enough to keep up with massive demand. We're going to have to look at other options. I like lab grown much more than the idea of eating insects TBH Grin

There is nothing inherently dangerous or wrong about GM foods. Unless you believe it to be interfering in the will of God, which I don't, and even then, there is a free will argument to be made.

If it's somehow wrong to create new sources of food in a lab, is it wrong to create medicines in a lab, or materials for clothing or insulation or shock absorption? Where would we be if we were stuck with only the resources that naturally occur on our planet?

BertieBotts · 15/01/2018 18:38

Legally, that's rubbish :( I'm all for proper food labelling.

Ratonastick · 15/01/2018 18:42

I can say with some certainty that it is fungal based. I am allergic to mushrooms and,much like OP, was very taken with the stuff as an alternative to meat. I have never been so ill in my life. Both ends solidly (or not) for 72 hours. I lost about 7lbs along with my willto live. I am very circumspect about meat alternatives now.

SheRaaarghPrincessOfPower · 15/01/2018 18:43

So it makes me vomit because I'm allergic to it?

It's a bit weird. I'm not allergic to anything else at all, not intolerant to any foods. It's not the protein amount either - i normally eat a high protein diet anyway.

Does quorn occur naturally or is it an entirely manufactured protein?

Wonder if it's the very specific protein that is the problem, like CMP is for a lot of people.

SheRaaarghPrincessOfPower · 15/01/2018 18:45

"There's nothing bad about it. People just love drama"

Yeah, I love puking my guts up after eating what I thought was normal chilli because someone thought I was making a fuss about not being able to eat quorn.

cantucciniamaretto · 15/01/2018 18:46

Sliver and fluffy - yes dairy is food. If you are a calf

Last I checked I'm not a calf but cheese is 100% a food stuff.

Like Quorn.

BombsAway · 15/01/2018 18:48

Being GM is in no way harmful.

Lecturer was very pro GM, just anti incorrect statements being made and supermarkets trying to label GM free as a positive even when it wasn't actually true

brownelephant · 15/01/2018 18:49

makes me feel ill, but many people tolerate it well and it's reasonably nutricious.

KathyBeale · 15/01/2018 18:50

When Quorn first came out I couldn’t eat it but now I can. Not sure if it has changed or if I have got used to it. I only really like the plain stuff though, and the sausages. I find the flavoured stuff - the hot dogs and strips etc - stay with me for hours!

The scotch eggs though are things of beauty.

Elphame · 15/01/2018 18:54

I have no problem with it - I buy the mine and chicken versions occasionally.

As for being a mould, well Stilton wouldn't be Stilton without a mould! Nor would a sweet pudding wine be a sweet pudding wine...

Smallplant · 15/01/2018 18:56

Lots of truly ridiculous reactions in this thread. I've never heard anyone have a bad reaction to Quorn before. My family have eaten it several times a week for years and we're fine. Frequently cook for guests with it and they're always fine. If you have an allergy or intolerance, that's disappointing for you, but it's not a moral judgement on the food itself. No more than peanuts are evil because people are allergic, or milk is evil because my auntie is lactose intolerant. No need for the mass hysteria..

Also utterly hilarious that people will baulk and be disgusted at the idea of eating something ~grown in a lab~ but will happily eat actual corpses of mistreated animals which apparently doesn't make them sick. Awesome!!

I never say anything that could be classed as "preachy vegetarian" usually - I'm very chilled and don't care what other people put in their mouths - but the parade of utter morons in this thread has finally driven me to it.

Also agree with what BertieBotts says up above re: man made food sources being needed to save our planet. After we have destroyed it so much through depleting fishing stocks, carbon emissions from mass farming, etc. The current way is not sustainable.

baramewe · 15/01/2018 18:58

I was about to say what Bertie said, we're going to need to start producing more foods in labs as the environment just cannot sustain our population for much longer. I'd much rather eat something from a lab than eat a cow that puts so much pressure on our planet to produce. I think what's naive is to not except that we have to make advances in food like we have in medicine.

brownelephant · 15/01/2018 18:58

tbh I would eat insect protein if processed enough so that I don't see any legs

LunchBoxPolice · 15/01/2018 19:05

I eat it and like it. For me, it's preferable to eating animals.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/01/2018 19:13

Interesting thread.

Those setting any store by what America classifies quorn as, and I don’t know, let’s not forget that the food watchdog there once classified pizza as a vegetable.

misscockerspaniel · 15/01/2018 19:14

Quorn: WTF is it? It is the work of the devil. I have eaten it twice. Both times, it hit my stomach and bounced straight back out.

SheRaaarghPrincessOfPower · 15/01/2018 19:23

"Lots of truly ridiculous reactions in this thread. I've never heard anyone have a bad reaction to Quorn before. My family have eaten it several times a week for years and we're fine. Frequently cook for guests with it and they're always fine"

Well, now you know to ask if people are OK with quorn before you serve it Smile

Fekko · 15/01/2018 19:29

I didn’t know it caused exploding bottoms until I made a spaghetti bolognaise with the mince and both DS and I were up all night.

I googled like mad the next day and found quite a few runners and diet websites that discussed the unfortunate effect it has on some people. For some reason the mince really does affect us badly - the chunks can make my tummy a bit runny (but I’m a greedy sod and it makes lovely tinga).

Smallplant · 15/01/2018 19:38

"Well, now you know to ask if people are OK with quorn before you serve it smile "

All my family and friends obviously know that we're long-term vegetarian, so a conversation about the fact that the sausage in the sausage casserole we're making them in our house is actually Quorn would be hilariously redundant. They'd hardly expect it to be meat. But thanks...

brownelephant · 15/01/2018 19:43

they might expect it to be a soy or nut substitute

Fekko · 15/01/2018 19:44

Or a Linda McCartney’s (but they are horrible), or Tival (not bad).