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To not understand why people call their baby...

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smellfunny · 15/01/2018 08:20

Not to be goady, but I don't understand why people give their babies names with negative connotations or meanings. Examples from the top of my head being:

Cain (murdered his brother in Old Testament)
Hector (hector also being a synonym for bullying someone)
Tristan (this one is a bit contentious because it can either mean 'tumult' or correspond to 'sadness')

Is it just that people don't think about the meanings behind the names? Feel free to add more names to the list...

Bonus name: 'Claudia' coming from the Latin word for 'lame'. I gave this one a pass because it's so established and the connotation is generally unknown...

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FlaviaAlbia · 18/01/2018 09:18

That's more due to the notoriety of someone of that name rather than the meaning surely? I've just googled and the meanings are positive but the associations are definitely negative - in the UK anyway.

FlaviaAlbia · 18/01/2018 09:28

I mean, I get that there could be negative associations with Ophelia too, but she didn't actually exist, it's just a story.

Myra unfortunately did exist.

BKHUN91 · 18/01/2018 09:37

Probably because most people pick a name based on how it sounds and looks or whether it fits into their family (sibset & Surname). I can't ever see myself looking at a Claudia and thinking 'oh she's lame' Hmm

BishopBrennansArse · 18/01/2018 09:42

Isn't it funny how Myra hasn't been used since the 60s yet Ian remained popular for some periods since then.

Battleax · 18/01/2018 09:50

Probably because Myra was more unusual and distinctive than Ian in the first place?

BishopBrennansArse · 18/01/2018 09:51

Wasn't that unusual, though.

Battleax · 18/01/2018 09:54

It wasn't? I didn't realise. Good old fashioned misogyny then.

BishopBrennansArse · 18/01/2018 09:58

That's what I think too. I know of 4 (some have passed away now) born in the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s.

RhiannonOHara · 18/01/2018 10:01

I don't look down on people who aren't very well educated- I just accept that they aren't very well educated. Education isnnt everything.

A politician's answer if ever I read one.

BertrandRussell · 18/01/2018 10:08

As I said before about snobbery, I always say what I genuinely think and feel on here. What’s the point otherwise? I don’t “look down” on people who aren’t well educated. I do ”look down” on people who think that being interested in things and wanting to know things is “snobby” or “pretentious” though..........

noeffingidea · 18/01/2018 10:16

Myra is also seen as old fashioned, and there aren't any other well known Myra's, so it is really associated only with Myra Hindley. Not to mention, female serial killers are rarer than male ones, so they tend to be more notorious.
As to meanings, personally I couldn't be arsed with looking up the meaning. If we both liked it and it wasn't associated with anyone too horrible then we went with it. I did reject Rose because of Rose West. I don't get all the angst about names though, it's just a name, everyone has one.

Estellanpip · 18/01/2018 10:19

Because I said the meaning or origin of a name, Battleax.
I don't know the meaning of the name Myra, never looked into it, don't care, but in this case it's only ever going to be redolent of that woman in the U.K, for some time I would've thought.

berni140 · 18/01/2018 10:21

Hate that 'Willy' is short for such a lovely name, if it wasn't we'd definitely have picked it (my Dad's middle name)

BertrandRussell · 18/01/2018 10:32

Generally speakng it’s not the origin or meaning of the name that’s the issue, it’s the association- if there’s only one person that springs into your mind when you think of the name like Diana, Myra (although I think of another one because I’m so pretentious Grin) Madeleine, Adolf, Beyonce, Winston, Desdemona, Oprah- then probably best avoided. If only because being asked “Oh were you named after X?” Would get wearing after a while.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 18/01/2018 10:35

I would assume that Myra had a brief surge of popularity inspired by Hess, rapidly killed off by Hindley.

FlaviaAlbia · 18/01/2018 13:07

I've never known anyone of any age called Myra, countless men called Ian and Iain though. Possibly due to not being from England.

I don't think of Diana as in the princess first when I think of the name.

That's how subjective and pointless this whole thing is. Everyone's references are so different and leaping to one conclusion based on your own seems utterly daft and narrow minded.

Valerion · 18/01/2018 14:05

Surely everyone thinks of The Omen, when the name 'Damien' is mentioned though, (not that i've come across any apart from in person). Although the parents named he precisely for that film, which makes it all the more horrendous.

BertrandRussell · 18/01/2018 14:07

Damian is another one......

noeffingidea · 18/01/2018 14:09

Valerion no I think of Damien from Brookside first. In any case, the association with a kid in a film wouldn't put me off, if I liked the name.

cantucciniamaretto · 18/01/2018 14:10

Damian is a perfectly normal saints name. I know loads of them and don't associate it at all to some 70's horror film. Why would I?

BertrandRussell · 18/01/2018 14:12

A complete sidetrack, but while I was looking up Damian, I discovered that there were three baby girls called Da in 2008. None in any other year. Isn’t that strange?

noeffingidea · 18/01/2018 14:12

Oh sorry, it was Damon Grant in brookside, not Damien. Still wouldn't bother me though, if I liked the name. A character in a film is not the same as a real life evil person.

BertrandRussell · 18/01/2018 14:13

“Damian is a perfectly normal saints name. I know loads of them and don't associate it at all to some 70's horror film. Why would I?”

Well you can’t know loads of them- because there aren’t loads of them!

cantucciniamaretto · 18/01/2018 14:23

I can know loads of them, actually. Because there are loads of them. I could name 5 famous ones and I know several more.
what makes you think there aren't lots of Damiens?

noeffingidea · 18/01/2018 14:29

Here you go, Bertrand
m.ranker.com/list/famous-people-named-damian/reference