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to say it's a drawer

220 replies

PompholyxOfUnknownOrigin · 14/01/2018 22:45

a drawer, a drawer, a drawer, a drawer.
Not a fucking draw.

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DGRossetti · 15/01/2018 15:40

Just for the lolz (!) how about "wheel" ? Because there are 2 ways to say that .... "we'll", and "whe-eel" with the "h" pronounced (a la Dara O'Briain on "Mock the Week")

Indaro · 15/01/2018 16:21

Great, this thread has me saying random words to see how they sound in my natural accent and then my adopted accent. Thank goodness I'm home alone or my children would really think I'd lost the plot!

For what it's worth. Draw and drawer sound exactly the same in both accents Blush but I do know how to spell and use both correctly Grin

SoupDragon · 15/01/2018 16:34

How can people think that 'draw' and 'drawer' are pronounced the same? One has an extra syllable! Genuinely baffled.

Really? You are baffled by people having different accents??

Even if in your dialect they sound the same, surely you still know they're different words and are spelled differently?

Yes, most people do.

DGRossetti · 15/01/2018 16:47

spelled and spelt Hmm

Ifailed · 15/01/2018 16:52

DGRossetti That was deliberate, both are correct.

DGRossetti · 15/01/2018 16:59

Internet fail ... I was just noting that's another word family where pronunciations can obscure the spelling Smile

deadringer · 15/01/2018 17:04

Chester draws 😂😂😂

RhiannonOHara · 15/01/2018 17:37

Draw for drawer gives me the Angry.

saladdays66 · 15/01/2018 17:54

Because for the majority of people in the UK they are pronounced the same

I don;t thikn you can speak for the majority of folk in the UK! Hmm

I have never met anyone who says 'draw' for 'drawer'

mrsm43s · 15/01/2018 17:56

I think I'm completely the opposite to others on the thread because I'm South Eastern,born and bred, and I definitely pronounce draw and drawer differently. In fact, someone mentioned flaw and floor - I also pronounce them differently.

I pronounce drawer like floor - ending in a eR sound (emphasis on the R, but with a hint of the e)
I pronounce draw like flaw - ending in a short W sound

I'm surprised anyone from the SE pronounces drawer as draw, but I can imagine estuary or S.London accents pronouncing draw as Droar. So I think we might be misleading ourselves by concentration on the drawer pronunciation, as I suspect its the draw pronunciation that varies more, in this part of the country at least. So if you pronounce draw as if it has an r on the end, then it will sound very similar to drawer, but if you pronounce draw ending in a distinct w, then it sounds very different to drawer.

KenForPM · 15/01/2018 18:06

I’m from the SE and pronounce drawer as draw. SE England, SW London. I spell them differently though.

People getting angry over different pronunciations for words make me 🙄. People have different accents, get the fuck over it!

bluescreen · 15/01/2018 18:07

Rhotic vs non-rhotic pronunciation. Guess you'll have to call it a quits. Wink
But spelling? Some people can't do spelling. Schools aren't as tough on spelling as they were in my young day and some teachers can't spell either. Not their fault. It's taken me many long years to learn to be less judgey about people who can't spell.

mrsm43s · 15/01/2018 18:12

But do you pronounce draw with a w ending? Or droar with a r ending? Because, honestly, I've never heard anyone say "chest of draWs" in the south east. I do hear people say droar for draw though, and chest of droars, which would make the two words sound the same - but its the draw that's pronounced regionally, not the drawer.

DGRossetti · 15/01/2018 18:18

People getting angry over different pronunciations for words make me 🙄

It would be nothing, except for the fact that some people do judge by accent.

KenForPM · 15/01/2018 18:26

mrsm I honestly wouldn’t know the difference! Maybe in my accent the differences are just so subtle as to be virtually unnoticeable.
I think that as long as people know what you’re talking about then pronunciation shouldn’t matter.
DG I know, I was referring to people on this thread who seem to get irrationally angry at the way someone pronounces a word. It fits in with a wider MN phenomenon, where so many posters seem unable to comprehend that others live a different lifestyle to the way they do. Getting annoyed/angry by different accents is just daft. I say “tooth” with a long, “oo” sound, some say “tuth” with a short “oo” (like to rhyme with cook and book). I don’t get angry, because that would be stupid.

PompholyxOfUnknownOrigin · 15/01/2018 18:27

Here I am back again, to say it was the spelling that annoyed me, not the pronunciation (as I've already said).
However I 'm glad someone mentioned "wheel" upthread. You can pronounce the "h" or not pronounce the "h"; I don't care. What is interesting is that if you do, the h sound comes out of your mouth before the w sound. hhhhhweel. Try it.

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mathanxiety · 15/01/2018 19:48

How can people think that 'draw' and 'drawer' are pronounced the same? One has an extra syllable! Genuinely baffled.

An extra syllable?
Where?

The W is silent. It's not like 'flower'.

Jamhandprints · 15/01/2018 20:30

It's just a Scottish thing I think. I pronounce them the same but I don't think of it as the same word...I always see the spelling in my head!
I bet you all pronounce Drawing "droring", don't you?

bluescreen · 15/01/2018 20:38

An extra syllable?
Where?

The W is silent. It's not like 'flower'.

Not sure that's always the case. I reckon there will be a few people who make two syllables from 'drawer' in this example, even if it's only for the sake of euphony:
Now therefore ye are cursed, and there shall none of you be freed from being bondmen, and hewers of wood and drawers of water for the house of my God. - Joshua 9:23

Besides, I know plenty of people who pronounce 'flower' as 'flah'.

And people who pronounce the artistic activity as 'droaring'.

People, eh? Grin
/OT

InspMorse · 15/01/2018 20:51

I pronounce both draw and drawer DROAR
I've read the whole thread and still don't know if people think this is right or wrong. Different accents I suppose.

MikeUniformMike · 15/01/2018 20:55

I say draw to rhyme with raw and drawer as draw-uh.

Whisky2014 · 15/01/2018 21:02

Does my head in too. Also Scotland :)

picklemepopcorn · 15/01/2018 22:27

I don't pronounce the h in wheel, but I do in which. I used to in what.

TheGoldenBowl · 15/01/2018 22:39

Re:wheel etc... In Old English, many words which have evolved into rough equivalents beginning 'wh-' were actually spelt 'hw-' As OP said, we automatically put the 'h' sound first, so the Old English spelling actually made more sense...

SoupDragon · 15/01/2018 22:43

I have never met anyone who says 'draw' for 'drawer'

I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t.

However, I understand the concept of different accents affecting pronunciation.