or is DP re pinot noir being red or rose?

[CurlyRover]

I say red, DP said rose and I just had to retrieve it from the fridge!

AIBU or is DP? Please help settle an argument debate?

Its red afaik

Red.

Dh drinks it and it's red. I drink pinot grigio which is white

Pinot Noir is definitely a red wine. You win

It's red.

I think technically it is a rose but I always call it a red

Red. It’s a red grape.

Open it and drink some (in the interests of science).

It’s usually red - but you can get a rose Pinot Noir. I had one over Christmas from Lidl, and it was very nice. Check the bottle!

Beaujolais is also red but can be served (& is nice) chilled.

It can be rose or white so you need to check the bottle.

It is a red grape but can be used to make champagne as well as red wine.

Pinot noir grapes can be used to make either.
Usually it's red.
Though Pinot noir grapes are also used in some rose champagnes.

I know you can get a merlot rose so might also get a Pinot noir rose.

It can be either.

Depends what one you buy...

Slightly off topic but this reminds me of when I worked in a pub and my colleague would always correct anyone who asked for a bottle of our rosé as ‘technically it’s a White Zinfandel not a rosé’.

It was a shitty student pub full of Freshers. Absolutely nobody cared.

She was a bit of a twat.

Unless it is a champagne it is typically red though so you are almost certainly right!

White zinf is a rose though isn't it? As opposed to red zinf

It's definitely not champagne. We won it in a raffle so I don't know where they got it from and the bottle just says red grape. But it definitely looks and tastes like red wine to me. He's even gone so far as to have it in a white wine glass...

I thought white zinf was a rose? I've always bought it as a rose.

You can make pink PN. More often it's red. If it was red, in the fridge, you'll be masking all the lovely aromas and much of the flavour. But nobby yaya. Wine. Friday. Job done.

I have no idea to be honest! She was very insistent that they weren’t the same thing. I always just assumed that anyone asking for a rosé in a student pub wanted some kind of pink wine and didn’t particularly want to get into a debate about all the different types of grape

You are both right. Pinot noir is a red grape, used to make both red wines and rosé wines. The rosé wines are lighter in colour because of the different method used in making those wines.

I dimly recall learning on a vineyard tour in Napa that White Zinfandel is technically a ‘blush’ rather than a rosé. I can’t remember the explanation why, though...

If you've poured it out and you can't see through it it's red!

Rose is made from red grapes with less contact time with the grape skin. Champagne is made using grapes including Pinot noir. Pinot noir can be rose. Basically, opening and drinking is the way forward