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To not lend my brother anymore money

47 replies

sophie2828 · 11/01/2018 11:53

I say lend but it's more give as I don't get it back nor expect to.

He has just turned 18, doesn't work. He quit college a few months after starting at 17 and since then has had 3 jobs and has been fired from all 3. The first two was because he claims the managers didn't like him (probably due to the fact he was always late and has a problem with people in authority) the third job he was let go as he wasn't meeting his targets (it was in a factory)

He says he is waiting for a call back regarding marine engineering in the navy, but he's been saying this for months. I've told him he needs to get a job in the mean time to earn some money and incase this doesn't work out. He said that he has been applying for loads of jobs but no one was requested and interview as of yet. I redid his CV for him and applied for jobs on his behalf but he seems to think every job I apply him for is rubbish and beneath him. I applied for him as a kitchen porter which he was invited to attend an interview for, however he refused to go as says it's a rubbish job and he wouldn't do it.

He lives with my mum (she works full time but has 3 younger children so money is tight) he isn't receiving any benefits and my mum gives him around £20 a week. He is constantly asking for more. He will ask me every week if I can lend him money and usually I will give in and say yes and give him the odd £20 here and there. He mostly spends it on clothes and cigarettes, he refuses to wear unbranded clothes or trainers so money doesn't go very far with him (he spent his entire £200 Christmas money on one tracksuit)

My other brother (aged 14) had £70 left over in Christmas money which my oldest brother "burrowed" and is yet to give back (says he will pay him back when he has a job) which he spent on cigarettes and a new top.

My mum is pretty much useless when it comes to being harsh on him. If she has money she will give it to him and makes no real effort at helping him get a job. She is full of excuses for him if I bring it up with her. She says she allows him to take money from his younger siblings as in her words "if I say no he will just cause a fuss"

I gave him £30 in Christmas money 3 days ago (it was a late Christmas present as I was abroad). He then messaged me today asking for £20 as he says he owes his friend £10 and wants to go out tonight. I've said no and that instead he should focus on handing out his cv. Now my mum has phoned me up asking me to please lend him money as she "can't deal with the drama" aibu? I am more than happy to help him get a job but I resent just dishing out money, I'm fed up with the situation. I have got him interviews and he just declines to go so I don't see why I should be giving him more money.

OP posts:
TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 11/01/2018 11:54

Why isn’t he receiving benefits if he isn’t working?

Yanbu anyway. I wouldn’t lend him any more money.

sophie2828 · 11/01/2018 11:55

He refuses to sign on.. he thinks that's beneath him as well

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Bambamber · 11/01/2018 11:56

No wonder he doesn't get off his ads and get a job when everyone pays his way for him. You all keep giving him money will end up damaging in the long run, he won't learn how to function as a responsible adult in real life. Don't give him another penny

TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 11/01/2018 11:56

Take a step back and don’t lend him any more money.

gamerchick · 11/01/2018 11:57

No cut him off and tell your mother it’s not your problem that she’s soft on him. Tell her if he kicks off then she can ask him to leave.

Leeds2 · 11/01/2018 11:57

I wouldn't give him any more. If he wants money, he gets a job.

Rainbowqueeen · 11/01/2018 11:59

Tell him you can't loan any more until you have been repaid every penny he owes and mean it. He will never learn if he is always bailed out

dinosaurkisses · 11/01/2018 12:00

You’re helping him a million times more by re-doing his CV than giving him more money to waste.

And why do people persist in saying it’s a “lend”? Stop using that word when discussing finances with him- he’s asking for a gift, he has no intention of paying you or anyone else back.

Onlyoldontheoutside · 11/01/2018 12:02

Say no.Help your younger siblings to get bank accounts to put their birthday money in.
Keep saying no.Dint give him the odd bit of money here and there.

Sorry but until you remove the access to money he will continue not to sign on/get a job.
You can't do anything about your mum but you can help the rest.
And keep saying no.

TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 11/01/2018 12:02

Actually, if the op ever wants the money back, it’s arguable important that she continues to use the words “loan” and “lend”. “I lent you that £100. Now I’d like it back”.

TheDailyMailIsADisgustingRag · 11/01/2018 12:02

Arguably* ffs autocorrect

ElfEars · 11/01/2018 12:02

Your mother created the drama by giving him everything he wants so she'll have to deal with it. Not your problem. Until he stops getting everything he wants he won't change, he has no reason to.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 11/01/2018 12:02

Stop enabling him. You and your mum are encouraging this. He isn't going to get and keep a job if he can sit on his arse and have his life financed. Wtf is your mum thinking in allowing him to take his younger brother's money. She is bring a crap parent to both of them in this regard.

If you could, then maybe return the £70 he stole to your 14 year old brother but leavr it at your house for safe keeping and tell all your siblings they are not to lend to him and that they are welcome to keep money in your house if necessary.

MillennialFalcon · 11/01/2018 12:06

You've done more than enough for him. Applying for jobs for him then he won't even go to the interview! He is massively taking advantage and wants everything handed to him and by doing that you and your mother are enabling his behaviour so it's never going to change. I think it's quite sad that your mother is not sticking up for you or your younger brother in this situation. That poor kid is never going to get his Christmas money back! Tell her you're not lending any more and it's not up for discussion.

ijustwannadance · 11/01/2018 12:10

He sounds like a lazy, spoilt brat who knows by kicking off mummy will give in to his demands.

Your mum should never have allowed him to take younger siblings money. She is doing him no favours by pandering to him.

He won't sign on because he would have to prove he is looking for work and should take any job.

If he has such a problem with authority, how the hell would he get on in the Navy?!

TalkinBoutWhat · 11/01/2018 12:12

Don't lend him the money. And tell your other siblings to keep their savings at yours, as obviously your 'D'B and your 'D'M can't be trusted to keep their money safe.

BattleCuntGalactica · 11/01/2018 12:13

He sounds like an overly entitled brat to be honest. Don't give or lend him any more money, he's eighteen years old and an adult so it's time he started acting like one.

CiderwithBuda · 11/01/2018 12:14

He has no incentive to work if everyone keeps giving him money. And it's not a lend as he has no intention of paying it back.

Situp · 11/01/2018 12:15

He is not going to end up homeless so I would definitely say you need to be cruel to be kind and cut him off.

If you are going to do anything, I would help out your poor 14 year old brother

sarahjconnor · 11/01/2018 12:17

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GeorgeTheHamster · 11/01/2018 12:20

Oh God no, just stop.

Who does he think he is? Why does he think you owe him a living? He needs to get off his arse.

Shoxfordian · 11/01/2018 12:20

Don't give him any more money; you're just enabling this lazy entitled behaviour

If you can get your Mum on the same page then that would obviously help

Hortonlovesahoo · 11/01/2018 12:22

He sounds like a charming young man. I’d not lend him anymore and tell your siblings to do the same. Your mum needs to grow a backbone.

He’ll never learn whilst he’s been bankrolled

strawberrypenguin · 11/01/2018 12:23

Don’t give him anything else and next time he steals from your younger siblings report him for theft.

Solly76 · 11/01/2018 12:25

Definitely not unreasonable. You know you won't see a penny of it back, and neither will your younger brother, the poor kid.

Your mum needs to stop facilitating his freeloading ways. It won't do him any favours. It's not fair to any of you.

It's not always something they grow out of either. I 'lent' my brother (in his 30's) over £1000 once to bail him out from payday lenders. He was going to pay back monthly instalments. I don't expect I will ever see it again.

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