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To have turned away this airbnb guest?

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Hiptrip · 07/01/2018 09:05

I have been doing airbnb for a while and have found it a great way to meet new people, and earn a little extra. That is until last Friday night.

Despite my house rule of no children, a woman wrote to me and asked if I could make an exception, promising that her two-year old son would be very well behaved. My house is not set up for children, and I simply don’t want toddlers here so I replied and said no.

She said that was okay and booked anyway, saying she had to come to my town for a wedding, and that she’d find someone to look after him.

Then she turned up with her child at 9.30pm saying she couldn’t find a sitter, and had hysterics as she pleaded with me on the doorstep, to allow him to stay. I refused and in the end called the police because she said she wouldn’t leave until I gave her, her money back in cash because she needed it to stay elsewhere. As she was starting to cause a nuisance, they got rid of her.

She’s taken this to airbnb. My argument is that she was told she couldn’t bring her child, and did anyway, so she should lose her money. Not unreasonable?

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 12:46

'Bollocks was it "definitely a scam". Stop trying to sound clever, you just come off as patronising and fucking rude.'

You are very naive if you think this doesn't go on. There's been no response from the CF according to the OP. That's because she got rumbled. It's pretty fucking rude to try to force your way into someone's home when you haven't adhered to the conditions of entry and think rules apply to other people.

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 12:50

'I remember time i asked about advice re someone smoking under my bedroom window and was adviced to take her a bottle of wine! '

Oh, yes, those ones. Got an abusive neighbour who blasts rap music 24/7, chucks dog shit in your garden and deals drugs from the door? Go over with a bottle of wine and a chat. Got a dickhead partner who does FA in the home despite the pair of you working FT and having 5 kids under 5? Sit her/him down for a chat, they just don't understand that there's work to be done.

DrMarthaJones · 08/01/2018 12:52

You are very naive if you think this doesn't go on

Did I say it didn't? What I said was yo don't know for DEFINITE what it was. No-one here does.
I'm not the naive one if you think MN'ers know anything for definite, none of this might even have happened for all you know!

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 12:59

Why so angry, Dr? Seriously, relax. It's a random thread on the internet.

BashStreetKid · 08/01/2018 13:01

How is pointing out a likely scam rude to anyone?

DrMarthaJones · 08/01/2018 13:05

Did you confuse the words likely and definitely?

Honestly. at least try to make some sense folks, otherwise why even bother? I know we're all just sad gits talking utter bollocks online because we can't be fucked to do anything actually worthwhile, but can we at least maintain a semblance of logic and thought?

MargaretRiver · 08/01/2018 13:23

There is also the assumption by salaried people on these threads that people who are small-scale self-employed, (i.e. earn some or all of their living by cleaning / dog walking /airbnb/ baking wedding cakes,etc) are grabby and entitled to expect payment if the other party changes their mind or flouts their stated conditions.
These people are usually salaried and cannot comprehend that it is similar to them, in this case as a teacher, only getting half their salary if half their class is struck down by gastro / taken out of class on holiday one week before the school hols begin, or whatever. There is no way that they would consider that fair, but are adamant that they in the OPs shoes they would not expect payment.

BashStreetKid · 08/01/2018 13:24

OK, how is saying something is definitely a scam rude? It might be mistaken, it might be rude to the person being accused if it's incorrect, but it's not rude to other people.

MaggieFS · 08/01/2018 13:26

Wtf MargaretRiver these people are normally salaried?

Where does that grossly incorrect assumption come from?

WellThatsATurnipForTheBooks · 08/01/2018 13:27

Glad to see the outcome was the only sensible one.

AirBnB did the right thing (as did the OP)

DrMarthaJones · 08/01/2018 13:27

And the number of dozy virtue-signally twats on this thread demonstrates quite clearly why this sort of thing goes on

Is that not rude? Hmm

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 13:29

'And the number of dozy virtue-signally twats on this thread demonstrates quite clearly why this sort of thing goes on

Is that not rude? hmm'

I don't construe it as so, but some seem to enjoy taking offence at everything on here.

DrMarthaJones · 08/01/2018 13:31

You don't think be called a dozy twat is rude? Ok, then I'll call you similar when I see you. Since you think its a perfectly fine thing to say to people.

BatShite · 08/01/2018 13:33

Where does that grossly incorrect assumption come from?

I would probably say that the 'its only 80 quid, just refund' brigade are extremely likely to be very well off. 80 quid makes a huge difference to some people.

MargaretRiver · 08/01/2018 13:34

Maggie FS
I probably expressed myself poorly
It is my observation that some salaried people, who expect to receive their income whatever transpires at work that week, seem incapable of understanding that many small-scale self-employed people in some of the jobs like I mentioned, rely upon the income they have accepted bookings (and turned down other custom ) for.
If the booked client then breaks their terms and conditions, or changes their mind, it is not at all grabby for them to seek payment.

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 13:38

'You don't think be called a dozy twat is rude? Ok, then I'll call you similar when I see you. Since you think its a perfectly fine thing to say to people.'

You really need to calm down and learn about more about how the board works. 'dozy twats' to no one in particular, it's an statement of opinion. Naming a particular poster and calling them such, or to fuck off, etc. is, however, against Talk Guidelines and exactly why someone's posts were removed (mine was for quoting the person) as those construe a personal attack, but hey, feel free to try Hmm. As for real life, yep, think it's an okay thing to say if the shoe fits. But please, continue stamping your feeties, you're doing well with that.

Pengggwn · 08/01/2018 13:39

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DrMarthaJones · 08/01/2018 13:41

You really need to calm down and learn about more about how the board works. 'dozy twats' to no one in particular, it's an statement of opinion

Saying it about multiple people is no less rude than singling out one. The people being called it know who they are. Perhaps you need to get off the forum and remember how actual human interaction and good manners work?
You've been here too long. Just my statement of opinion.

kazillionaire · 08/01/2018 13:43

It was 9.30pm, they were going to a wedding in the morning - would it really have hurt to let him stay? He would have been asleep for most of it!

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 13:44

'Saying it about multiple people is no less rude than singling out one. '

In your opinion. But, well, HQ disagrees, so there you go.

'The people being called it know who they are.'

Then they can report their ire to HQ.

'Perhaps you need to get off the forum and remember how actual human interaction and good manners work? '

Nah, I like it here. Smile. People like you make it all worthwhile. Similarly, my opinion is that you need to learn how to relax.

'You've been here too long. '

That's not for you to decide. But again, you're doing fine! Feel free to continue.

LadyinCement · 08/01/2018 13:45

Very funny about the EVSs (Extreme Virtue Signallers).

Ones I remember are the one where a poster wanted to sell the grandma's house that was being rented out and people were baying at the OP to give it to the tenants, and another in which a poster had had a sandwich offer rejected by a homeless person and she was berated for not having discovered if he had food preferences .

I'd be interested to know how many of these VSs are as generous with their own houses, possessions and money.

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 13:45

'It was 9.30pm, they were going to a wedding in the morning - would it really have hurt to let him stay? He would have been asleep for most of it!'

There's always one who just doesn't read the thread.

KERALA1 · 08/01/2018 13:51

EVS excellent term.

My favourites as you say are berating the OP for not giving the tenants her house. Is she not kind?! And the wife of the scoutmaster for not inviting into the house a shouty parent.

Or the one where a toddler set off a hand-dryer in a public loo and an aggressive shouty woman yelled at the OP. An EVS earnestly explained how in the same situation SHE would have take the shouter to a nearby cafe to find out why she was upset. Snort.

Sorry have to go - I am making lunch for free for my entire neighbourhood before I go off to find someone deserving who I can give my car to.

KERALA1 · 08/01/2018 13:53

So any money that isn't directly essentially necessary to feed and clothe your family should be given away to strangers Penggwn? I take it you do this?

expatinscotland · 08/01/2018 13:54

'Sorry have to go - I am making lunch for free for my entire neighbourhood before I go off to find someone deserving who I can give my car to.'

Don't forget to register your home as a public loo so you can let in any random to knocks on your door and handing over the contents of your bank account to someone who's having a hard time Grin.