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Is it appropriate for a university to give out pro-life leaflets

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StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 15:50

I genuinely don't know. Was a bit disappointed

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nooka · 04/01/2018 20:38

Anything produced or endorsed by the university will have their name on it Stealth. SPUC are obviously hoping that by putting their leaflet in with the university's support materials anyone seeing the leaflet will have the same reaction you did. The table should be checked every now and then by whoever maintains the display so it will likely only be there a few days.

BertrandRussell · 04/01/2018 20:38

“Next lesson - that people have all sorts of views”

Of cores they do. And that is fine. Unless those views include telling vicious untruths to vulnerable young women.

Bluedoglead · 04/01/2018 20:39

It’s a leaflet on a table ffs.

Bluedoglead · 04/01/2018 20:40

It’s NOTthe gp. It’s a university that encourages independent thought debate and independent gathering of knowledge.

It’s not even close to the same setting as a gp.

StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:40

Wow what an insight
Not any more, it's in my pocket

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StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:40

Wow what an insight
Not any more, it's in my pocket

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StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:41

So you don't think students should get pastoral care and health signposting from their university?
I disagree strongly with that.

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Haffiana · 04/01/2018 20:41

Maybe I'm naive Yes you are, which is OK, you can learn not to be. However expecting to be looked after as 'vulnerable' will ensure that you become a snowflake instead.

Do you want to be a snowflake?

Bluedoglead · 04/01/2018 20:41

For the record. I’m pro choice.

But your attitude that a leaflet set out on a table implies that the uni are “giving out”those leaflets and somehow endorsing them is just wrong.

StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:41

No. I don't think you've understood my position tbh

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StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:42

Read the thread please, where that has been addressed many times.

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nooka · 04/01/2018 20:42

Probably better to compare with a hospital really. A GP practice probably has a couple of displays, which are likely in view of the reception desk and easy to check. Most universities have multiple buildings and many many displays, all of which are pubic accessible often during times when few people are there. Much harder to police.

Bluedoglead · 04/01/2018 20:42

They should get pastoral care and signposting from the student support services area of their university.

In an open area, where there’s just a table with leaflets, no.

StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:43

OK fair point.

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Haffiana · 04/01/2018 20:44

It seems to me that your education this far has left you unprepared for life, for the world. And here you are complaining because you are not being protected.

Growing up, using your intelligence, learning discernment - it should be a great journey for you.

StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:45

Had please note how I have acknowledged conflicting arguments like a good little student. Pwease can I have your approval now

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nooka · 04/01/2018 20:45

and yes universities do have responsibilities towards their students which they (generally) take very seriously. Students are young people often away from home for the first time and some of them are very vulnerable. It's a prime time for mental health conditions to emerge, for substance misuse and sexual assault. No doubt one of the reasons why organizations like SPUC target universities through leafleting, student societies, protests and demonstrations.

StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:46

Why don't you do some learning of your own. Consider how you come across and alienate the people you're trying to lecture.
Can you do that?

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Bluedoglead · 04/01/2018 20:47

If it was, for example, on a notice board behind glass to which university staff had the keys and were responsible for putting whatever info up on the board, then I’d say 100% the university were responsible.

Mumof56 · 04/01/2018 20:47

Basically, there are no lows to which the forced birthers will not sink

Like burning people and censoring information?

Oops no it wasn't the forced birthers who suggested that.

StealthPolarBear · 04/01/2018 20:47

And for the record I am not complaining because i am not being protected. Check your facts please.

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Lashalicious · 04/01/2018 20:47

There is nothing wrong with pro life leaflets in a university. Pro life groups educate people on the stages of pregnancy and the development of the fetus so that women can be fully informed when making such an important decision.

Science has come a long way with ultrasounds and imaging. No longer can pro abortion advocates make the unscientific claim that a fetus is only a mass of cells. Young women should have access to that scientific information and be aware that there are other views and serious ethics issues worth considering.

Haffiana · 04/01/2018 20:48

It isn't my aim to make people like me? However, had I been nice and agreed with you, what the fuck would have been the point for you?

Coconutspongexo · 04/01/2018 20:49

I don’t think it’s censoring information really when it’s just opinions and bullshit? Is it? That’s just propaganda

Haffiana · 04/01/2018 20:49

Perhaps I have been kinder than you can possibly imagine.