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To really, really hate Toby Young

232 replies

MargaretCavendish · 04/01/2018 13:24

So, yes, I'm an academic and I think Toby Young was a crap choice for his new job (as does just about anybody who knows anything about it). But it has also just reminded me of the depth of my hatred for him - I think he is the person who I most hate in the world, which is unreasonable really, given he isn't actually a mass murderer or genocidal dictator. But... is it? IABU to think that Toby Young is the world's most odious twat?

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YouCantBeSirius · 04/01/2018 16:47

It's not just me who think he looks like Phil Mitchell is it?

To really, really hate Toby Young
Moussemoose · 04/01/2018 16:52

Witches

You don't have to be a Tory to be a cunt hence the 'and'. Although I do find they tend to go hand in hand - as a general rule.

Back to the cunt in question though. I really didn't think I could dislike him more but after reading this thread you know, I do.

MargaretCavendish · 04/01/2018 17:05

Thanks for the link to the other thread, extinct - I should have checked for one before posting, but I was consumed with a sudden spasm of Young-hatred!

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WitchesHatRim · 04/01/2018 17:06

You don't have to be a Tory to be a cunt hence the 'and'. Although I do find they tend to go hand in hand - as a general rule

Well I find you don't have to be a Corbyn supporter to be a cunt but they do tend to go hand in hand though - as a general rule ....

Piggywaspushed · 04/01/2018 17:06

Thanks cat

WitchesHatRim · 04/01/2018 17:07

Oh and no I don't think Young is right for the job. I just dislike this he's an x so is automatically awful/wrong stance that goes on.

Moussemoose · 04/01/2018 17:10

Witches

It's a bit more than 'not right for the job' though isn't it?

You may not like Corbyn but I think he is unlikely to give a job to someone who comments publicly on women's breasts.

extinctspecies · 04/01/2018 17:13

OP in this case I think more than 1 thread is perfectly justifiable!

Piggywaspushed · 04/01/2018 17:18

Anyway, what happened to this no more quangos thing...? I thought that as a Tory pledge...

I bet TM thinks he is an awful man.

Am hopeful some dreadful tweet about her by him will surface and he will be out.

I have been for a few tours round (secondary) Free Schools Never yet encountered a head who isn't a smarmy self congratulatory self absorbed egomaniacal twerp.

WitchesHatRim · 04/01/2018 17:19

You may not like Corbyn but I think he is unlikely to give a job to someone who comments publicly on women's breasts.

No but his party has appointed Mps with pretty abhorrent views and he has also promoted some.

No one party is immune to this sort of crap.

squoosh · 04/01/2018 17:25

Surely they could have found a Tory who was qualified for the role and not a total tosser. All I take from this is 'scraping the barrel'.

Piggywaspushed · 04/01/2018 17:25

This isn't meant to be a political appointment though is it?

Laughs like a drain.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 04/01/2018 17:30

When TY was on here for a webchat, he accused me of being an old-fashioned Tory because I said I didn't think the ambition for every 6th former to get into Russell Group was practical! (I am not a Tory, not even anywhere close). So whether he's right or left or floundering in the middle pretending on Twitter that his dick is up a woman's arse, it's not his right-wingedness that's the main problem.

(although it is a problem that JOhnson and Gove are on Twitter saying how great he is. And that all of them just dismiss any concerns as 'lefty whingeing').

He's just an appalling, and actually really quite stupid, individual, and it's hard to think of anyone less qualified for the role. He's utterly foul.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/01/2018 17:30

I read that his father - who had six children by three different wives - was a pretty dreadful father

He may well have been, and the fact that he got on the phone to Oxford to plead his son's case after he missed his A level offer does not sit well with me at all. I do feel obliged to say, though, that although his first marriage ended in divorce (no idea about the circumstances) his second marriage ended when his wife died at the early age of 62. This poem is very touching.

Cancer

This poem was written by Michael Young about his wife, the writer Sasha Moorsom, who died of cancer in 1993.

Her sumptuous legs, promising so much,

Arresting other men's eyes to their appraisal

Kept me awake at night with hot imagining

Made me cry out from voluptuous dreams

Until one night she allowed my hand

To stroke them kindly and make them mine.

Her arms were other branches from the same tree

Stretching long and luscious from the same trunk.

I could blow my way up and down this downy surface

Like a tender zephyr

Bending down a thousand brown shoots

Before they sprang up straight again.

Now her arms are become twigs.

No longer concealed by those soft curves

Bones life never allowed me to see

Have disclosed the scaffold that was always waiting there

Her skin glows no more

Even the hairs do not bend to the breath.

Now the steroids swelling up her legs

Have made her flesh weep water

Enough to wet the carpet and my eyes.

But when I rub her thin thighs with oil of lavender,

Left to my own appraisal I love her more.

Behind the bones, alongside the crumpled skin

The same large brown eyes, larger now, shine out

As brightly as 35 years ago

When our souls first were joined together

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/01/2018 17:44

Alan Coren was one of the best panellists ever on The News Quiz on Radio 4. Giles can't hold a candle to him.

corythatwas · 04/01/2018 17:50

As always, agree with thecatfromJapan:

"FYI: Toby Young sets out to be offensive. He does the verbal equivalent of pulling his trousers down an pooing in the condiments aisle in Sainsbury's. For attention. For money. To piss off his long-dead daddy. In an ideal world, you'd give people like that therapy. In a less ideal world, you give them a column in the Daily Heil. In a badly dysnfunctional government, you give them a role in overseeing universities."

TinklyLittleLaugh · 04/01/2018 17:56

Someone described Giles Coren as a "hereditary journalist". I guess Toby Young is much the same. Though of course we also have hereditary politicians, actors and rock stars. And I guess hereditary C listers.

PrincessFiorimonde · 04/01/2018 18:05

I've always thought he comes across as an utterly dreadful person, with nowhere near the sparkling wit and intelligence he seems to think he has.

LOVE Kathy Burke's comment.

BashStreetKid · 04/01/2018 18:40

I agree that Giles Coren isn't my favourite person, but he's not quite in the same league of arseholishness as young. And I don't understand how anyone could describe his father as influential.

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squoosh · 04/01/2018 19:12

Influential in that his being Giles' father influenced GC's career path positively.

LakieLady · 04/01/2018 19:25

@MargaretCavendish I have often wondered how much of his odious twattishness and rabid misogyny is a reaction against his father's socialism, but he's shockingly immature not to have grown out of it by now. I think he must be aggrieved at never having been allowed to join the Bullingdon Club and play Hoorays with his hero, Boorish Johnson.

This appointment is shameless bloody cronyism. I long for the day when all these quango sinecures are advertised and appointments made by a transparent process of open competition.

LakieLady · 04/01/2018 19:35

It's not just me who think he looks like Phil Mitchell is it?

Yep, Phil Mitchell, minus the charm and with added facial hair.

And I bet his dick's smaller than the average button mushroom - one of those flaccid, tinned ones, at that.