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To not think animal charities are not that important

159 replies

LardLizard · 30/12/2017 00:36

Just making me think someone I know very well is often posting about making huge donations to a local animal shelter
Basically a dog rehoming centre
But i don’t think they actually regime many most of them just end up living in this dog shelter
Personally I’m not sure if it’s more humane to end their suffering for some dogs that won’t get a proper home
I mean wonder how many dogs there are out there that are homeless ? Day just in the uk alone

I don’t jus when ever I see these posts I just think oh that could have gone to a more worthwhile cause that actually helps children babies adults humans

And don’t get me wrong I do adore animals
I just prefer putting humans first

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WillowWept · 30/12/2017 09:41

What a horrific view point to have. So what you're saying is that animals have less rights than humans

I know you are addressing the OP but yes I think animals have less rights than humans: we eat them, keep them for milk and leather, for entertainment and work.

I used to think this was a fairly uncontroversial statement - who wouldn't put a child before an animal but MN has taught me there are plenty of people who would save a dog over a child.

LardLizard · 30/12/2017 09:42

Whatsthatcomingoverrhehill, yes I agree what makes dogs or cats so different from pigs

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LardLizard · 30/12/2017 09:43

And personally I class guide dogs as a human charity

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missbattenburg · 30/12/2017 09:44

It continues to amaze me that with all the shit going on in the world, caused by humans, that someone would waste judgement on another person not doing good in exactly the same way as them. The target of judgement should be on people doing ill, not on how others choose to help the world in which they live.

Save your ire for those that are operating sweat shops, those that neglect their children, those that beat and subjugate others, those for whom power is too powerful a drug.

Wondering whether Mrs Smith from down the road did the right thing giving £20 to the RSPCA when the NSPCC still need money has to be the most counter productive activity ever.

You see it all the time and I honestly think humans are so flawed they cannot bring themselves to judge the really bad guys because they fear they cannot really change anything; so they judge the good guys for not being their own specific brand of good.

-sigh-

(I'll get off my soap box now)

mustbemad17 · 30/12/2017 09:46

Why does it bother you what charities people donate to? I personally won't donate to people charities like cancer research or the heart foundation - not because i don't believe in them, but because i don't see why the Government is getting an easy time over not funding the research. I support some military charities because we are military - but i am picky because of how some choose to spend their funds.

I am a huge animal lover & will help decent rescues where i can - transport, assessing, homechecks, fundraising. I don't see people as less important than animals, but there is generally a lot more support for people.

The only thing that bugs me about donating in general is that people will donate on the face value of what they see. I'd love it if everyone took a bit of time to dig - be that into their human charity or their animal charity - to see what they are supporting. It is too easy for people to fundraise for both & the money not go where it needs to

winobaglady · 30/12/2017 09:49

What I find unreasonable is that there is the need for any charitable organisations, human or otherwise. If only we had no need to help the vulnerable old or uncared for children, and abused animals.
So, choose your charity, OP, and let others choose theirs. You ABVU to dictate which charities people should support.

numbereightyone · 30/12/2017 09:53

Guide Dogs for the Blind is not an animal charity. It's a disability charity.

midnightmisssuki · 30/12/2017 09:57

I ONLY donate to animal charities. The beauty of free choice!

ElsieMc · 30/12/2017 10:04

I think its quite right that people donate to the charity of their choice. Animals aside, I worked for a national charity for a few years and it was always apparent that people will favour more emotive charities, ie children, cancer charities rather than dementia. This is not a comment on worthiness before someone jumps on this, just the cold, hard financial truth.

Another truth was that when out collecting, it was always the poorer towns/areas who gave the most generously.

I watched a situation with an animal charity on the Good Morning programme after reading about it in the press. An original Will had left a substantial donation to this charity. The lady involved remarried, made a new Will then sadly died. The Will was incorrectly signed and contested stridently by the charity involved. Her husband told them he would give the house to them upon his death in an effort to settle the matter, because he felt he did not want to be on the losing side of contentious expensive litigation. They had not agreed by the time the programme went out.

Conduct hugely damaging to the many worthy charities out there far more than human versus animal charities. I personally am really wary of signing up on a monthly basis again due to bad press and hassling phone calls.

k2p2k2tog · 30/12/2017 10:08

Totally agree. Animals should not be abused or deliberately harmed, but if it's a choice between £10 donation to give a child clean water or to keep a dog in a kennel, the human charity wins every time.

LardLizard · 30/12/2017 10:09

I totally accept it’s her choice
Just think it could be better spent that’s all

Guess we will have to agree to disagree

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iBiscuit · 30/12/2017 10:19

Some of the stuff that pops up on my Facebook feed (shared by others) is quite baffling, especially when people seem fixated on no kill at any cost or investing crazy amounts of resources and energy on bringing dogs to the UK from overseas.

But it's probably not harming anyone (most of the time), and I like that humans can be barmy. It takes all sorts.

fantasmasgoria1 · 30/12/2017 10:21

I always donate to animal charities first. Reason being people always put human charities first so they get the bulk of money whereas animal charities get less. I also love animals. Animals are sentient beings and they deserve to be treated with love and care.

LolaTheDarkdestroyer · 30/12/2017 10:36

Don't blame the donators blame the twats that can't look after their dogs.
I agree to a point that there isn't enough money to help find cures for cancer etc and I think that's where most money should go.

But it's up to the person donating and some people hate people and love dogs.

Sparklingbrook · 30/12/2017 10:40

How about volunteering? Is it ok to volunteer for an animal charity? Give time instead of money?

Indigo911 · 30/12/2017 10:40

The world would be a much better place without humans. Animals are innocent beings who don’t deserve half the shit that humans cause them. I donate to the WSPA each month which helps animal cruelty all over the world. I would be very choosy about donating to a local animal charity though as a lot of them are badly run. I once volunteered at a dog home and had to leave after a few hours as they were treating the animals appallingly

mustbemad17 · 30/12/2017 10:41

No SParkling you must only donate your time to worthy causes...get out & build some wells & stop wasting your time on useless animals (Hmm)

spurtions · 30/12/2017 10:43

I would never donate to an animal charity and neither would I donate to large national charities such as cancer research. I focus my donation on areas where there is a shortage of research such as rarer cancers as it makes me sick that the vast majority of cancer research is on breastfeeding cancer to the exclusion of other charities and in supporting mental health issues on a local level

singingdetective · 30/12/2017 10:44

I wonder if those who seem to think that animals in shelters are better off dead would apply the same logic to children in orphanages?

spurtions · 30/12/2017 10:44

I mean breast cancer to the exclusion of proper research into cancers with much less favourable outcomes

mustbemad17 · 30/12/2017 10:46

Singing an interesting question. Years back when i was i sixth form our school went out to Malawi for a month. The reports of some of the orphanages out there were appalling; tiny babies laying passively in cots because they have learned very early on that nobody will respond to their cries. Awful

Ashamedandblamed · 30/12/2017 10:46

I personally think human and baby charity's are a waste. I also think they should just be humanely killed to save the suffering.

So there we have it, two different opinions.

Indigo911 · 30/12/2017 10:50

I’ll never understand people’s logic that humans deserve to be on this planet more than animals do. Just because we are more intelligent and advanced than them doesn’t mean anything. We are the ones destroying the planet. I watched a horrific documentary about the dog/cat meat trade in Asia and they were boiling and skinning them alive because they think the more fear an animal feels during death, the more tender the meat will be to eat. I’m not against eating meat (I do so myself if I know where it’s come from) but the barbaric treatment of any species is something that is totally unnecessary

RestingGrinchFace · 30/12/2017 10:50

YANBU to believe that but it is a bit unreasonable to think that you know better than others how they should spend their money.

RestingGrinchFace · 30/12/2017 10:52

@dingingdetective come on, the two are not comparable. The children will leave the orphanage one way or another eventually. Mean while The animals will die in the shelters one way or another.