petrol money or running costs

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Persons A B and C all work I'm a location where there is no public transport and live close together 15 miles away.A is a driver and gives B and C a lift to and from work 5 days a week. Petrol for this comes to £30 per week and C each contribute £10 but pay nothing towards insurance tax or maintemance arguing that A would have to pay these anyway.A argues he is a new driver so insurance is high and that they only use the car for work.What is fair? B and C have no other means of getting to work
All doing professional jobs

How do they get to work when A is on holiday or on an off-site course? I think A needs to be careful not to invalidate their insurance, is the car for personal or business use? Is there a point at which A’s charging would tip them into using the car as a business?

I think if it's bothering A that he's the only one maintaining the car when all 3 need it for work, then yes, they should contribute to wear and tear, new tyres will be needed, car will need servicing, etc.

If A feels very strongly about it, they can withdraw the lifts from the other 2 and let them sort themselves out.

I think the non drivers need to actually remember who is doing who a favour ! Being the driver even if you live very close always involves some hassel and to be honest i would tell them to fuck off and just drive myself if they want to sit in my car pay the bare minimum and bitch at me - the two non drivers should pay £15 a werk each and be a bit more grateful.

Running costs are no more if there is one or three people in the car. So 1/3 of the petrol (which again a wpuld still be paying if travelling alone) seems fair

Agree with Mylady

I use to give a lift occasionally to someone and I never asked for help with running costs or insurance, I was going there anyway. It was nice to just get some help with the petrol cost. Is they decide not to have lifts with A anymore, he won't even have that. It's just getting greedy

Charge them milage at 45p per mile which should cover petrol and costs.

It’s not just about running costs though is it? It’s being tied to a schedule that suits three people, possibly having to detour to pick up, having to give advance notice of any change to routine. Wear and tear isn’t being factored in either. No, this is not a fair contribution. Car share is better, where everyone takes a turn.

I don't see how this works, as other people have said what happens when A is on leave or sick? If C goes on leave does B pay £15 for half the fuel? I am not sure wear and tear, insurance etc would be any less money if A travelled alone, and if B and C contributed to those costs do they get to call on A on a weekend for lifts? If A is a new driver how did all three of these professionals get to work before A passed his test?

This won't work longer than a week or two.

Hmrc would allow you 55p per mile to cover fuel, insurance, wear and tear, 45p per mile plus 5p per mile per passenger.

So a third would be about 18p per mile each. How does that compare to what they pay?

B is new employee, C used to get lift with boyfriend but finished with him.
Raindancer- I think an occasional lift is a different situation to an arrangement which accounts for
90% of total mileage.
Good point about the insurance

At the momen B and C are each paying £10 to travel 150 miles.

I don't drive (because I don't want to) & part of making that decision had to be taking responsibility for getting myself places - so living somewhere with decent public transport.

Being dependent on a colleague for getting to work & back sounds like a terrible idea for multiple reasons. Do B & C intend to learn? What do they do if A's not available?

A needs to be careful though unless they want to find themselves spending £80 more a month...

A had to travel abroad for work for a week and b and c got a lift with a different person each day.I think part of the problem is they have different deadlines, meetings etc

This is why I’m learning to drive, so I can work anywhere

Perhaps A should drop some hints

That’s my not so useful contribution

A is fed up of them moaning about petrol contribution!

So just tell them it’s no convenient to give them a lift any more if you don’t want to do it!

A is doung them a favour. If they are fed up then they need to speak up.

Presumably they are fairly new graduate types. It’s going to get increasingly difficult to be tied to giving BAndC lifts with late nights etc, what if A moves jobs or starts seeing someone or wants to go somewhere after work I’d be pissed off too. I’m afraid I’d just tell them the lifts were stopping for any of the above reasons and they should learn to drive

Agree with Sirzy.
Surely A doesn't want to cut their most off to spite their face. If A isn't happy, stop giving lifts, but surely A is reaping some benefit by also only paying £10 instead of £30?

So wait. B and C are morning about having to contribute for petrol?

They are moaning about petrol contributions! If I was A I'd say that if they think that's expensive they can find alternatives for a month. See if they can find a cheaper way to get to work. After the month they can stick with their new method or shut up and pay £15 to include a bit towards wear and tear.