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to hope the Foreign Office don't waste any time on Laura Plummer...

684 replies

PiffleandWiffle · 26/12/2017 22:09

She was stupid enough to smuggle drugs into a country against their laws, got caught & got sentenced.

BBC Link

Cue the predictable wailing & cries of "it's not fair" from the family!

Personally, I'd rather the Foreign Office spent it's time trying to help people who are genuinely in trouble abroad rather than idiots drug smugglers....

OP posts:
SenoritaViva · 27/12/2017 16:54

She is quoted as saying 'but I haven't done anything wrong' when she was expected to be released at her trial. I have already commented that I think she should be supported by the FO and I wouldn't wish the Egyptian prison system on anyone but I don't understand why she is still claiming to have done 'nothing' wrong.

limitedperiodonly · 27/12/2017 16:55

Er, she wasn’t correct when she accused me of making it up

butchy. I didn't accuse you of making it up so so please stop making things up about me.

I asked you to produce links to back up your claims. You have not done that. Unless you do, I can't be bothered.

I think this woman has a case to answer in that she imported 290 units of Tramadol into a country where the substance is banned.

But I don't know how much that means in terms of the harm it can do. Is it 290g or 290 tonnes?

I think it's closer to the former than to the latter and we should calm down a bit. I don't think she deserves three years in prison in Egypt or in the UK

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 27/12/2017 17:01

No one would receive a custodial sentence in this country for this offense

Not true at all.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:12

I asked you to produce links to back up your claims. You have not done that. Unless you do, I can't be bothered.

I provided you with an example in my post of 14:59

I refused to provide you with further examples because the thread has quite a number of references to the guidelines and I refuse to trawl through the entire thread on your command.

All you have to do is read my post of 14:59 to see the reference to a single post (there are more) where the guidelines are referenced.

I think you summed the situation up very well yourself - you really “can’t be bothered”. You are so very lazy and arrogant that you don’t bother to read the thread you’re posting on, fling around accusations at other posters and then demand links when the thread is FULL of references to the guidelines I was asking about.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/12/2017 17:15

I imagine he is denying everything otherwise surely he would have been arrested too?

He hardly needs to deny anything ... hasn't Laura already stated that he knew nothing about what she's done?

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:18

No one would receive a custodial sentence in this country for this offense

Not true at all.

Imma googling but not finding any actual cases where someone has received a prison sentence for supply of Class C so far.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:19

He hardly needs to deny anything ... hasn't Laura already stated that he knew nothing about what she's done?

Yup. Twue wuv. Hmm

RedDogsBeg · 27/12/2017 17:23

limited you are in the wrong in your interactions with Butchy, you misread/misinterpreted what she said and then demanded she produce proof of what you thought she meant. Butchy never claimed anything that required links to validate it, never insisted that either Laura or her 'colleague' would or should have anything done to them under UK Law, she was just musing about the case as are we all.

I doubt very much that you will accept this as you are still stubbornly refusing to admit your fault, however, it is there for everyone else to see and everyone bar you has managed to correctly read Butchy's comments.

Oliversmumsarmy · 27/12/2017 17:26

The local press in her home town have said she was given the drugs by a colleague who got them on prescription

Are we going after the friend for getting hundreds of pills they didn't need. Should the nhs be supporting random Egyptian citizens who have never even seen a nhs doctor.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/12/2017 17:28

Twue wuv

Grin

Watch this space, though; when she finds out he won't be bringing her a file in a cake comfort she'll probably change her story - though whether this would affect her sentence I obviously don't know

ForalltheSaints · 27/12/2017 17:29

I hope that the Foreign Secretary makes no public comment on this. So as not to upset the family, given how he put his foot in it with the British Iranian Mrs Ratcliffe.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:33

Watch this space, though; when she finds out he won't be bringing her a file in a cake comfort she'll probably change her story - though whether this would affect her sentence I obviously don't know

You know, I don’t agree with the suggestion that she may have been “coerced”, but I’ve been trying to think of any cases I’ve heard of where idiot men do these things for women*.

So far I’ve drawn a blank. 🤔

DISCLAIMER: For the benefit of @Limitedperiodonly, not my suggestion, but a suggestion made by others on the thread

DorisDangleberry · 27/12/2017 17:34

She's from Hull, how can an Egyptian prison be considered substandard accommodation?

DullAndOld · 27/12/2017 17:35

behave yourself Doris Grin

IncyWincyGrownUp · 27/12/2017 17:35

Oliver there were dark mutterings from the family that the person should step forward. I have no idea why, as it wouldn’t have helped the Egyptian case.

Quite bonkers.

If you search for the Hull Daily Mail on facebook the comments sections on the stories are full of excellent drama.

Piggywaspushed · 27/12/2017 17:36

And lo the very very thinly veiled snobbery has had the veil lifted...

limitedperiodonly · 27/12/2017 17:37

No you didn't butchy

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:38

She's from Hull, how can an Egyptian prison be considered substandard accommodation?

And today’s announcemount was brought to you by the Hull Tourist Board, in partnership with Egyptian Airways Prisons. Grin

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:43

No you didn't butchy

Yes, I did. Post @ 14:59. It’s on page 14.

The “previous” button at the bottom of the page lets you scroll back. I suggest you use it.

MoKnickers · 27/12/2017 17:50

Silly cow. I suppose we’ll now be subjected to her daft over made up mother and sisters doing the daytime tv circuit bleating on about how it’s so unfair.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 17:51

And lo the very very thinly veiled snobbery has had the veil lifted...

It sorta makes me want to go...

Curtainshopping · 27/12/2017 17:52

Thanks for that link Aridane it was interesting.

So the FCO will basically look after your welfare, give you information and help you communicate but they won't influence or interfere witch the legal process. Sounds like the right balance.

mustbemad17 · 27/12/2017 18:08

From something i read today okay it was in the sun i think, don't shoot me Boris mughead has already started a dialogue with the Egyptians. Personally i'd be more worried about that if I was LP!!

LizzyButton · 27/12/2017 18:18

For those of you pondering what she might have received for doing this in the UK, a British Lawyer does a little thought experiment here:

defencebrief.blogspot.com/2017/12/laura-plummer-gaoled-for-taking.html

Usual caveats and hypotheticals.

Rebeccaslicker · 27/12/2017 18:21

But why does it matter what would have happened in the U.K.? If she'd touched someone's hip in a bar in the uk she wouldn't have faced prison and a trial either.

That's the point - she wasn't in Britain, she was in a country that isn't exactly known for its shining human rights record, and so she ought to have been a lot more careful. Frankly the "urfi" document would have made me run a mile - a document that allows a married man to have sex outside marriage?