To never post on MN again...

[DMwankers]

Fucking Daily Mail So shit how they lift people's threads. Lazy journalism at its finest.

I actually think by Mumsnet not dealing with this issue (or perhaps being in partnership with the mail) they are going to lose users.

I agree that this could lead to a woman being killed or killing herself.
At least other forums like Digital Spy don't pretend to be anything other than entertainment.

Oh, this again

People, just lay off the fucking Daily Hate Mail and it won't upset you!

Another anti DM username ;)

It's incredibly naive anyway to assume that anything you post on the internet will stay private and confidential. Even if the DM stops being linked with this forum, there are plenty of others who forward threads too

I second this. It hasn't happened on a thread I've been on but threads in FWR sometimes get picked up and linked to much nastier sites than the Daily Mail.

You all know this is a public forum; you all know this happens and it is not only the Mail which does this.

The thing is it does upset me. It upsets me greatly that women that might be our cousins,mothers, sisters or partners might be posting asking for help about something they can’t talk to us in real life about. Desperate and not thinking clearly they post on here as they feel it’s a supportive place with much needed advice. Then they end up in an international newspaper.

There needs to be a clearer warning for more vulnerable users on this site. Perhaps flashing up as logging in. Not everyone is as aware of the dangers.

If you dont want to change your username you have to put a vair bad swear as the first sentence of your post.

Thing is, journos can only pick up what someone's put on here. Admittedly that can be bad enough, but there's no obligation to help if they lift a story and chase you for further details

God help me, but I was the "cancel the cheque" poster, and at one time my message box was rammed with requests for more from these parasites ... all of whom had no doubt registered on MN so they could PM posters

I ignored them all

I think people are completely missing the point here. You seem to assume that only an article in the DM might endanger someone. Does it never occur to you that the very person they are scared of will be reading the thread?

Mumsnet is an open public forum. Your boss, your husband, your grand father, your neighbour, your local MP might be reading everything you write, and might recognise you. Stop pretending that the DM is the dangerous thing, people really have to realise that ANYONE can read their thread!

Did anyone in real life figure out it was you puzzledabdpissedoff? That’s my concern it’s easy to then do a search and find out other personal details about a person and if not aware of the dangers you can out yourself in real life. Then before you know it the whole world is reading about your husband strangling you including said husband.

I agree strawbasket that’s why I want a warning. I have figured out who most of my friends are on this site and they don’t even realise.

So people are happy to post personal stuff on an extremely popular site that ranks highly on google searches and that regularly share threads on Facebook and twitter but go off on one when the mail post it? You’re just as likely to be outed on Mumsnet.

Mumsnet is an open public forum. Your boss, your husband, your grand father, your neighbour, your local MP might be reading everything you write, and might recognise you

I think it’s easy to argue this, but it’s worth thinking about it this way. These people have no reason to be on, or even know the existence of MN. Because MN have a target market. So in essence there’s less fear to post detail when in need of support.

Many many more people know about DM, it’s a much bigger and varied audience.

DailyMailisRubbish
I have recognised a couple of people too!
and pretty sure at least one person who I work with, which is very amusing.

When people ask why posters are always vague about their hobby, it's because it's another clue about their real identity... It adds up!

These people have no reason to be on, or even know the existence of MN.

But a mutual friend on fb might ‘like’ a post sharing a thread on FB or someone on twitter might retweet. Mumsnet is not a quiet corner of the internet. I don’t use pistonheads but I have read a few threads as people have shared stuff on sm. I’m not their target market but know of it’s existence.

Totally, I see all points of view on this, but I’m just trying place myself in the shoes of the OPs affected YKWIM?

it’s just such lazy journalism.

I am so sick of private information from women who are in a crisis being made so public

As much as I think it's lazy journalism I think it has to be understood this is a public forum, as soon as somone posts they themselves are making the info public. Anyone can log on and read and mumsent has millions of readers.

you also forget how much mumsnet pops up on your search results. Many people joined when looking for completely random - non child related - topics. That's what is so dangerous, posters imagining that MN is a little island cut from most of the world.

There's a fair amount of posters who don't have -or want -children, and they still ended up here.

You’re just as likely to be outed on Mumsnet.

No, you aren't. Over 20 million people read the Daily Mail a month (stat from 2015). I don't know how many readers an average thread gets, but it's going to be a tiny tiny percentage of 20,000,000.

Did anyone in real life figure out it was you puzzledandpissedoff?

If you mean as a result of all the nonsense in the media, yes they did - but then the only folk who'd have cared knew what had happened anyway and had a good belly laugh over it all. Admittedly I'm no longer on the Christmas card list of the folk the post was about, but that doesn't matter

The overall point is that my life's a fairly open book, and if there's anything I don't want traced back to me I'll either not mention it at all, or maybe namechange to do it

but your 20 million are unlikely to read every article - you could even argue that the ones who will read or click on the MN articles would be the ones going on the forum.

Of course it's more than lazy journalism, but the danger is posters not recognising that this is a public forum, DM or no DM

but your 20 million are unlikely to read every article - you could even argue that the ones who will read or click on the MN articles would be the ones going on the forum.

No, your logic really doesn't stack up. You're far more likely to be 'outed' by the DM than by Mumsnet.

The massive reach of the Daily Mail, etc, is also the reason I don't expect there to be "warnings" from MNHQ any time soon ... they'll hardly want to dissuade folk from posting interesting threads which might be spread, given the advertising they'll bring the site