Or perhaps doctors shouldn’t be branding their patients’ internal organs

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www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/15/doctor-signed-patients-livers-law-courts

Agree with charge. It demonstrates the arrogance that some NHS employees have. Branding people like cattle.

If you need to be capable of superhuman detachment to do your job. Then I would also imagine that it is even more important for you to know and understand the rules of that environment.

Or else where does it end?

In terms of having the power of life or death over people, surgeons are vastly more powerful than 'gods'.

If you are ever in the position of being offered life-saving surgery on the condition that the surgeon will 'autograph' his work, rest assured that you will give your permission.

There is a huge amount of trust involved in letting someone put you unconscious in the belief they will treat you.

The fact that most people would give this level of trust easily to a stranger is because we all know the rigourous standards and safeguarding procedures to which medical professionals are kept.

If they let brilliant surgeons dick around just because they are brilliant that trust will be eroded.

Posters thinking this is OK. Think about it and then think about it again. This is as disgusting a behaviour as you can get. He deserves jail.

Willow is right. Detachment is needed in a good surgeon. If my liver got signed in exchange for my life, a mark nobody sees and disappears after a month, he can sign away. It would make a nice after dinner story. People are too sensitive and just looking for reasons to be offended

Stupid and arrogant thing to do but it should not be career ending.

Interesting now the young medical student Lavina Woodward did actually stab someone and was deemed to have too bright a future to receive a custodial sentence yet this surgeon is on assault charges and has lost his established career.

It’s an interesting case, I’ve had several liver surgeries and couldn’t care less what my consultant carved into my liver; he saved my life. However, it’s obviously stupid and potentially dangerous.

Wtaf? That’s so weird and messed up. My dad’s a surgeon. Not a chance he would think this was ok. Completely unethical. Yanbu.

Chrys201If you are ever in the position of being offered life-saving surgery on the condition that the surgeon will 'autograph' his work, rest assured that you will give your permission.

Rest assured I would not. Saving a life is enough reward and evidence of skill if his ego can't be satisfied by that alone then I don't want him anywhere near me.

What is the AIBU for this?

Seriously? One doctor not doctors multiple. One large ego.

I think I have a bucket of grips, please choose one.

Chrys2017

Where does it say that the patients gave their permission?

It doesn't, because they didn't, and were not given the choice.

That it was makes it wrong.

Disgusting and his career should end.

If he branded me like a piece of cattle I wouldn't be saying it was ok because he saved my life. No fucking way.

I would have trusted him to do his job and treat my body with respect. No one consented for him to brand them. You don't do what you like to someone's body just because you have a massive ego.

I think I have a bucket of grips, please choose one.

You know that line stopped being witty a long time ago?

Well it's not the surgeon who has the 'life and death' powers anyway, it's the anaesthetist.

This surgeon didn't as much display an 'error of judgement' just a wanton and wilful disregard for procedure and an arrogance and breathtaking self-satisfaction that he was entirely justified in his action. I wouldn't want him as a surgeon, he's not up to the job as he decision-making process is obviously flawed.

Splinterz it’s not an over the top post it’s a discussion...

If you are ever in the position of being offered life-saving surgery on the condition that the surgeon will 'autograph' his work, rest assured that you will give your permission.

No, I wouldn't.

If a surgeon is prepared to violate someone in this way what else would they be prepared to do? It's not funny and I wouldn't want a surgeon capable of this anywhere near me.

Never mind the extended recovery time from the burns he inflicted.

goldfish has it. It’s not the extent of the harm done. It’s the disrespect for the person on the table and the ethics of his profession. Assault is right.

It's also the attitude afterwards. Being very apologetic and realising they'd ballsed up majorly would go a long way.

If you are ever in the position of being offered life-saving surgery on the condition that the surgeon will 'autograph' his work, rest assured that you will give your permission.

Maybe. But that would be my permission to give.

i would not care about this one bit

The example given of the manufacturer's mark on a titanium leg implant just demonstrates the fatuousness of the author of this excusing piece of 'journalism'.
Quite. Manufactures products require full traceability back to the manufacturer and the supplier of the original materials, in case of faulty manufacturing process or materials. This is very, very different. (And very, very wrong).

manufactured

I would care VERY fucking much. But baffled by those who wouldn't be bothered by it.

it would make a nice after dinner story. People are too sensitive and just looking for reasons to be offended

A nice after dinner story? How sad that your life is so very dull that you would welcome this kind of violation as a way to make yourself seem more interesting over the coffee and mints.