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4 year old left on the bus

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Huskylover1 · 15/12/2017 20:22

Just heard about this on the news.

A 4 year old boy, gets the bus home from school. He misses his stop. Doesn't alert the driver. Driver gets back to the depot and parks up the bus and leaves. Bus driver has now been sacked for this.

In my book, a 4 year old, is way too young to get the bus home. Especially as there was no parent waiting at the bus stop even! Had there been, the parent would have alerted the bus driver that their son was on board, and needed to get off. Usually, this boy makes his own way home from the bus stop, lets himself in, and his parents arrive home from work, shortly thereafter.

Cue lots of moaning by the parents, that they've been let down. No mention from anyone, that perhaps this little boy shouldn't be making this journey alone.

I just can't fathom, how any parent can thinks it's good judgement to let a 4 year old:

  • identify the right school bus to get on
  • realise when he needs to get off
  • walk from the bus stop to home, and let himself in

Bonkers!

OP posts:
Saucery · 16/12/2017 16:29

So do we, Heman! 2 rooms downstairs, 3 upstairs, described as ‘flat on 2 levels. Think it’s to do with there being no garden and to get round planning when they are built on the ‘flat’ end of an estate.

pisacake · 16/12/2017 16:33

Why would you have an extra adult on a minibus with 7 kids on it? What purpose would they serve?

ButchyRestingFace · 16/12/2017 16:34

So do we, Heman! 2 rooms downstairs, 3 upstairs, described as ‘flat on 2 levels. Think it’s to do with there being no garden and to get round planning when they are built on the ‘flat’ end of an estate

I see “flats on two levels” being advertised all the time on Rightmove, particularly around the Rutherglen/Burnside areas.

They’re not referring to upper flats with an attic conversion.

It’s always confoozled the fuck out of me.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 16/12/2017 16:34

Those four in a blocks could have come from anywhere around me and I live on the East Coast.

SaucyJack · 16/12/2017 16:35

Is that the same thing as a maisonette Saucery, or is it a new and exciting architectural innovation?

Saucery · 16/12/2017 16:38

Not sure, Saucy. The one that is frequently up for sale near me isn’t ever described as a maisonette. Maybe it’s haunted, damp, or they get fed up of having space to park 15 cars but no garden.

TheFirstMrsDV · 16/12/2017 16:39

What a fucking idiot thread.
Kids with all kinds of disabilities get the school bus from the age of four.
One driver, one escort.
Non verbal children. Children with visual impairment, autistic kids etc.
What is with all the THEY LET A FOUR YEAR OLD ON A SCHOOL BUS???
bollocks

I know the thread has moved on to some nonsense about flats but fer christs sake the way some posters can't think outside their own lifestyles Hmm

EvilDoctorBallerinaRoastDuck · 16/12/2017 16:48

I'm English, lived in Glasgow and currently live in a house. Not a hoose. My house is in the basement. Xmas Grin

GerdaLovesLili · 16/12/2017 16:49

Was it this bus? (This thread is utterly bonkers)

4 year old left on the bus
Seeingadistance · 16/12/2017 16:50

Seeing so secondary aged children should have another adult on the bus with them?? Are you on glue?

@ LizzieSiddal

I'm not on glue, but strange that you should mention glue, because that was the substance that was poured onto my cousin's hair when she was travelling on the school bus about 30 years ago.

I'm very aware that due to budgetary restraints, there is no way that councils will fund another adult on school buses, but in an ideal world I believe it would be better for there to be an adult there who is not the driver.

As I pointed out - a child known to me took ill - lost consciousness due to breathing difficulties - on a school bus. The driver had to find a safe place to stop the bus, and while he did so it was up to the other children to take care of their school mate, which they did very well. An ambulance attended and the child was taken to hospital, more than 30 miles away.

My desire for an additional adult on school boys is more rooted in reality than your idea of parents in rural locations getting their children to school by another means!

Seeingadistance · 16/12/2017 16:51

School boys! Shock

School buses!

Seeingadistance · 16/12/2017 16:57

@pisacake

Not a minibus. I was thinking more of the bigger buses used in some areas for secondary school kids. Some of them are double-deckers and bullying and riotous behaviour can be a problem.

But yeah! I know it's not going to happen, because no money to fund it anyway.

Seeingadistance · 16/12/2017 17:00

Although, from a safeguarding point of view, you're not supposed to have an adult on their own with a child, so the last one off the bus is on their own for a time with the driver. Wonder how that is justified in terms of PVG practices.

To be clear - I'm not suggesting anything about bus drivers, but given that others who work or volunteer with children have to be so careful not to be alone or out of sight on their own with children then I'm just wondering aloud.

LizzieSiddal · 16/12/2017 17:09

@ Seeing I’m very sorry that happened to your cousin, 30 years ago Hmm. You do realise nasty, bullying children will do nasty, horrible things to others ON SCHOOL PREMISIS, where there are tens of adults milling around.

You and others may think you might like an adult on every single school bus but it isn’t ever going to happen.

MiaowTheCat · 16/12/2017 17:10

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LizzieSiddal · 16/12/2017 17:12

seeing x posted.

Well maybe we could have three adults on the bus.
One to drive,
one to watch the children and
one to make sure the two adults are not behaving in any inappropriate way.

Mind you, what if that third person was a wrong un😱.

Seeingadistance · 16/12/2017 17:19

@Lizzie, we'd need a fourth to work the buttons on the lifts in all the tall blocks of flats these children live in! And a fifth to ring the doorbells that are too high up for the children to reach.

TieGrr · 16/12/2017 18:53

Edie McCredie would never have allowed this to happen.

HemanOrSheRa · 16/12/2017 19:01

So do we, Heman! 2 rooms downstairs, 3 upstairs, described as ‘flat on 2 levels. Think it’s to do with there being no garden and to get round planning when they are built on the ‘flat’ end of an estate. Ooh now Saucery those would be called maisonettes here. House type flats look like houses but are two flats! Each flag gets half a massive garden AND you can see the world outside your windows. Imagine that Shock!

HemanOrSheRa · 16/12/2017 19:02

TieGrr GrinGrinGrin.

Ceto · 16/12/2017 19:38

Internet strangers are "kindly" going to get footage of a 4 year olds house.

Where exactly do you get this from, Mumof56? Could it be another piece of fiction?

pisacake · 16/12/2017 19:42

Unfortunately Edie got sacked after failing diversity training. She kept singing about 'coloured' houses.

EvilDoctorBallerinaRoastDuck · 16/12/2017 20:01
Xmas Grin
HemanOrSheRa · 16/12/2017 20:05

Ah pisa I wondered what the story was about Edie.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 16/12/2017 21:07

Perhaps it's like that reality programme on the TV the other day, that said someone was from the "town of Fife", when in fact, Fife is a County.

😮😮😮
Fife is not a fucking county!

It's a Kingdom!!!

The pic upthread are exactly like the flats round where I grew up (blocks of flats are multis).

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