To opt-out of organ donation

[Jamiek80]

I am currently on the organ donor list however if the government make it opt out instead of opt in I will choose to opt out. I have a few reasons firstly though I’m on the register I actually have no clue what is involved, What can be taken, how much is taken, what happens to my body and a whole load more questions. Secondly if opt out what will happen can they just take everything I mean it’s possible to transplant a head these days so why not just store whole bodies just in case? Thirdly would the government make it simple to opt-out? Finally if you start opt out technically the government owns your body post death at what point do they decide they can take your organs while you’re still alive? I’m not against organ donation as I said I’m on the register but perhaps a better approach would be more available information, I wouldn’t even know how to re-register these days!

As with the others- if I or my dc needed an organ and it was available, I would gratefully accept. Just as if I, or my dc were in the situation where we were able to donate and someone (or several people) gain organs that saved their lives due to our death, I would do it without hesitation.

To me, it's like you can't take something like that if you're not prepared to give it yourself.

I donate to food banks- I have unfortunately been in need of their help, and will continue to donate where I can because you just... do.

If you are on the register why now, are you so worried about opt-out rather than opt-In? If you don’t want to be on the register anyway then why don’t you get yourself taken off? I don’t get why you are suddenly all concerned. Personally, I. All for donation, none of it any good to me when I’m dead!

This already happens in Wales, it already happens in Spain. No one steals anyone's head or any of that nonsense, stop being ridiculous.

It should be assumed that if you aren't on the register, you can't receive an organ should you need one.

Is this proposed?

Allowing family to override it, to me, is like saying 'oh batshite had a will, but we disagree with her choices so lets give to who we chose instead, or even, just bury all of her possessions with her instead...bugger anyone else benefiting from her wishes'

I was under the impression that nothing regarding procedures will change and medicos will still liaise with family members as they do now. The only change is that instead of ticking a box to say you want to donate you have to tick a box to say you do not want to. That way if you do nothing you consent.
Not many of us will be suitable donors anyway. You need to die in hospital to start with, to be free of cancer and infectious diseases, have organs that are healthy and not worn out etc. If you die in an accident and cannot be resuscitated etc or die naturally at home then your body won’t be suitable.
Maybe some time in the future your scenarios might come to pass OP but atm the Govt is not getting involved and the public would not stand for it.

I have been open to organ donation since the days they included a little card in with your provisional driving license.
They can transplant what they want and use the rest for research if they can, it all helps move medicine forward.

I am happy to donate if it is still NHS, but not if its a profit making company in the future.

I think this article gives some insight into what happens. Relatives are approached sensitively and there is a discussion as to what organs to use. news.sky.com/story/it-was-her-wish-to-live-on-daughters-organs-saved-eight-lives-11167348

You can specify whether you'd like to donate some or all of your organs. Looking at the NHS organ donation site ( www.organdonation.nhs.uk/about-donation/what-can-i-donate/ ) hands and face aren't included on the list (but seem to be on the American list).
I'd suggest you call and speak to the organ donation service to have your concerns addressed before opting out based on an apparently limited understanding of what can and can't be donated and whether there'd be anything of you left to have a funeral (the answer to that is of course there would be BTW - even bodies donated to medical science have sensitively handled funerals once their use is fulfilled)

OP, you do realise that Travolta/Cage blockbuster ‘Face/off’ was a Hollywood film and not a documentary?

My suggestion is get on the ruddy grip transplant list, as it seems you are in urgent need of one.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=HjLK8Q_t1Wk
This is how it works.

Ha e you ever seen The meaning of life op?

What happens when they decide they don’t have enough suitable dead donors will you be forced to give up a kidney while alive?

Seriously?

Are you trying to make end of life decisions or writing a dystopian novel? That plot was covered in "Never Let Me Go."

Your reasoning is very bizarre. There is lots of information on the organ donation website. Read that if you are confused.

Personally speaking, once I'm dead I have no further use for my body so if it can be of any use to someone who is sick then that's fine by me.

I am very pro organ donation, I think being opt out is actually better as many people don't register as they haven't really thought about it rather than having any real objections. Having to opt out may trigger people to really about it and hopefully prompt them to let their family/next of kin know of their views so that if the worst does happen, then the family know what their wishes were rather than being faced with that decision. Although personally I think if someone has expressed a wish to be an organ donor then the family should not be able to over-ride that.

Lastly, if you would be willing to accept an organ for yourself or your child(ren), then you ought to be willing to donate.

I was at school with someone who didn't fancy being a donor as she thought she might not be really dead, if it came to it. Sigh. She was meant to be clever. If we can't do assisted suicide for those suffering horrible lingering deaths, do you really think we can kill those who are still live and kicking for their kidneys?
You would not believe the shit storm that goes down when a patient falls on the floor - can you imagine the hell that would be unleashed if we ripped bodies to pieces when their owners hadn't finished with them! Wake up, OP.
Medics primary principles - 'first do no harm'.

Please, please educate yourself rather than posting so thoughtlessly. I donated my husband's eyes seven years ago, and I assure you that the team acted with the utmost sensitivity and professionalism. At least two young men can see more clearly and several other people will have benefited with tissue taken and banked. It has meant a great deal to me and my children. I hope not, but maybe your family will be in need one day. It's a gift.

I've carried a donor card for many years but if an opt out system is introduced it will be torn up and I will opt out. It's not the Government or anyone's business to decide what happens to my organs, it's mine.

Oh and before you all scrabble to ask if I will also opt out of receiving an organ, the answer is yes. I'm in my 70s, have been disabled with associated pain for forty years and if it's my time to die, so be it.

When I die they can take whatever they want and my family know that. They also know when the time comes I leave the decision to them if they choose not to donate they can without guilt of it not being what I wanted. If they choose to donate they know they are potentially giving a precious gift to many people who are suffering.

I will be gone and won’t care anymore either way and won’t know their decision. If I am lying hooked up to machines and that time is painfully prolonged for them due to waiting for the right time for my organs to be harvested and they cant cope, or if they feel they need to be there when the machine is switched off and my body dies I want my family to make the decisions that are right for them, and especially my ds, at the time.

The same would happen if something happened to dh, I would hope I would have the strength to give permission, but when it comes to the crunch I have no idea how I will handle it. I would not judge any person who did not give permission in difficult circumstances.

With some of your remarks I'm glad your opting out. Anyone who gets your brain is screwed🤦🏼‍♂️😂

On a serious note I would say research your questions online. I'm sure once it changes officially there will be a 'what will it
Mean for you '

To be fair Blue a lot of those patients' organs aren't exactly in excellent condition.
That said, I agree with the principle - too many people aren't registered through sheer apathy, they'd be happy to donate their organs but just never get around to sorting out the admin side of it. I am one such person and have no qualms with any bit of me being donated once I'm out.

I don't really understand your reasoning - why are you so against face and hands being used, Aface is not going to look like you - the person receiving the transpalnt will have totally different bone structure. I imagine.

I would guess if someone needs a face transplant then they either have a disfiguring disease or have had a terrible accident. How amazing to think that you could help someone like that after your death.
The idea that I could be 'recycled' appeals to me very much. Unfortunatey I'm not allowed to be on the register for medical reasons, so I can;t donate, although I would very much like to.

As for viewing someone in an open casket - dead people don't look all that much like living people, open casket viewing is very overrated and can be quite distressing.

I have actually researched donating my body to science as I quite like the idea.

Unfortunately the criteria for being accepted are quite scrict and their ability to take your body depends on many factors.

I was a bit disappointed by this.

However I find it really quite odd that a large percentage of people would opt out because they have this image doctors mooching around wards wielding cleavers should someone look even slightly morose.

Anyone would be U for opting out of organ donation if medically able but your reasons are extra U for being so bloody stupid!