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‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown’ - as it should be! Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 05/12/2017 05:30

From Shakespeake’s Henry IV, Act 3 Scene 1.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3094156-All-we-want-for-Christmas-is-an-IMPEACHMENT-Trump-cont

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cozietoesie · 07/12/2017 20:09

Ouch. Grin

lionheart · 07/12/2017 20:48

The greed part I really don't get ...so much wealth (inherited, earned, swindled) and still they want more.

lionheart · 07/12/2017 20:51

Seth Abramson‏Verified account
@SethAbramson

(THREAD) Erik Prince—Trump advisor; ex-head of a murderous mercenary army; would-be head of Trump's private spy agency; would-be head of a privatized U.S. army—is a dangerous liar. He just testified under oath. This is a live reading of the transcript. Hope you'll read and share.

It's a long thread ....Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 21:14

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
CNN: Previously undisclosed emails show there was follow-up after the Trump Tower meeting, despite Trump Jr.'s insistence that there was none. Trump Jr. told House Intel yesterday that he could "not recall" the emails.

Goldstone apparently encouraged Dan Scavino in one email to create a social media page for the Trump campaign on the Russian version of Facebook, VKontakte.

Holy cow. Another email sent by Goldstone referenced the DNC hack: In a June 14, 2016 message Goldstone described news of DNC hacks as "eerily weird" given what had been discussed at the Trump Tower meeting 5 days earlier.

This is the first sign we've gotten that hacked emails were discussed at the Trump Tower meeting.

cozietoesie · 07/12/2017 21:31

Money and/or power, lion. They always want more.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/12/2017 21:32

Thanks, cozie. We're approx 400 air miles north of LA, so we're in no danger. The weather here is very different than So Cal. We don't get the Santa Ana winds. It's clear, calm, and cool here. My cousin is about 70 miles southeast and the wind is blowing the smoke away from her.

It's pretty horrible for the people involved. Over 200 homes have been lost in the different fires. Here's a link (my 'hometown' newspaper) that gives some good info and pictures, if you're interested.

lionheart · 07/12/2017 21:37

The power part is easier for me to grasp (must have despotic tendencies) ... Grin but how do you arrive at a place where even your stupendous wealth is not enough?

I need more Gin Smile

cozietoesie · 07/12/2017 21:39

Thanks, Across. My understanding of a 'Purple Alert' (never used before) is that it's a potential 'You're on your own - there's nothing we can do'. Sad

cozietoesie · 07/12/2017 21:42

I don't know, lion. It's clear that many very rich people keep acquiring though. Or trying to.

Perhaps there's some sort of protective thing at work.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 21:43

The link to the Stone story

edition.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/previously-undisclosed-emails-after-trump-tower-meeting/index.html

This is the same Roger Stone who belongs to that exclusive club of people who can stonewall and fabricate reasons not to give information asked of them by oversight committees and still swan about without any repercussions. In his case, he claimed that he couldn't divulge the information required because the conversation would somehow violate the journalist's right to protect a source, even though he wasn't the reporter Hmm

cozietoesie · 07/12/2017 21:46

'Muddy those waters'. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 21:53

Manu Raju‏
@mkraju
In another email, the son of the Russian attendee at the mtg sends an email to his dad after Don Jr released the Goldstone emails. He asked: Why did they admit to "collusion?"

lionheart · 07/12/2017 21:58

This is such a shame for Lewis.

thehill.com/homenews/house/363815-john-lewis-wont-attend-opening-of-civil-rights-museum-over-trump-presence

What could possibly go wrong? Hmm

cozietoesie · 07/12/2017 22:00

I imagine he'll go there at some point.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 22:07

Dave Weigel
@daveweigel

It's uhhhh unfortunate that John Lewis won't honor the sacrifices made by ... [looks down at notes] ... John Lewis.

lionheart · 07/12/2017 22:11

Rabbit hole. Grin

Basseting · 07/12/2017 22:13

My 13 yr old ds (asd) just watched the clip of Trump making his announcement about Jerusalem last night.
He made 3 comments:

  1. He looks like he is daring a grown up to come and tell him off.
  2. He looks like President Snow (Hunger Games).
  3. He looks like the hands have been put in by hitfilm
I didn't disagree.
Roussette · 07/12/2017 22:16

President Snow! Yes! You have a bright boy there Basseting

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 22:17

Very astute DS you've got there basseting

Kenneth P. Vogel‏
@kenvogel

NEW COURT FILING: MANAFORT suggests special counsel is trying to limit his 1st amendment rights by trying to stop him from publishing an op-ed in Ukraine, & argues that the op-ed wasn't an effort to influence his case.

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AcrossthePond55 · 07/12/2017 22:19

Purple is a wind warning cozie. It means winds expected of up to 80 miles per hour. If a fire breaks out, it will explode and move at uncontrollable speed. A purple wind warning has never been issued in California before.

For practical purposes it means that IF winds are that fierce and fire breaks out there's a good chance that rescue personnel may not be able to get to you or may have been given orders not to enter an area, even to effect a rescue.

My friend who lives near Napa told me that during evacuations her coworker was told by the office that once the police serving the evac orders had notified everyone that they (the police) were leaving the area and they would not come back, even for 911 calls.

I'm sure that the Trumpettes so inclined are saying that it's 'God's punishment' for the Sodom and Gomorrah that is Southern California. Hmm

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 22:21

Eugene Scott‏
@Eugene_Scott
Moore to an African American asking when he last thought America was “great”: “I think it was great at the time when families were united. Even though we had slavery, they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

Christina Wilkie‏
@christinawilkie
At the same event, Roy Moore referred to Native Americans and Asian Americans as “reds and yellows."

AcrossthePond55 · 07/12/2017 22:25

Re the museum opening, I think a boycott is in order.

But I'm sure they'd stuff the seats with state workers co-opted from their desks and told they were attending. Wouldn't be the first time.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/12/2017 22:27

Ha, the chyron

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