What will happen if food poverty and homelessness keep growing in the UK?

[AbsentmindedWoman]

I think it's generally accepted that food prices are rising, and will rise a fair bit more next year. I'm hoping that costs aren't completely insane, though. Does anyone know how much they are predicted to rise?

If they go up by much, surely food poverty and food bank usage is just going to keep going up?

What will happen to homeless people also? There is honestly a shocking amount of people on the street in central London. Many argue that a lot are beggars, and actually go home at night - but that's still not great? That people are cobbling together a living from begging on the streets?

I feel it's so easy to fall into horrific destitution these days - obviously, times over the course of human history were far more brutal and it's still vastly better for us living here in the UK today. I get that. Still, though, the world feels like a kind of scary place to be in many ways right now. As a chronically ill woman with no assets such as property, I feel an undercurrent of vulnerability all of the time. Maybe I need better anxiety medication

What do you think will happen to people in poverty in the UK over the next few years? Will things improve somehow?

But if landlords are forced to sell. Who would buy the now empty homes?

Plenty of people.

Still we could await those thousands of affordable houses that the Tories promised to build each year if re-elected though...

Kursk

The population has been dis-armed only the government have access to weapons

To add to that the vast majority of the Army has now been moved to south of the M4, very little army is actually base in the North/ wales now (just training centres). So the poorer areas of the UK are utterly powerless against the rich south, should it ever come to that.

Dapplegrey

Yes I do mean guns. It’s possible that other countries will arm a British rebal army.

This is one reason why Americans hate gun control. Because they want the ability to overthrow the government in the event they need to.

The problem is with rental laws and BTL. So many bang on about it's not being the renter's home, it's the LL's property and blah blah blah. Short-assured tenancy has a lot to answer for, as does the largely unregulated lettings industry, the ability to discriminate (you can't hang up pictures on the walls, we're allowed to do inspections and pull you up over the state of your cupboards, no children, DINKs only, you're never more than 2 months away from having to move again or a rent hike, you'll need to host viewers when we're trying to sell). People have overstretched themselves and banks sold dodgy mortgage products in part because renting is so shit in this country.

Victorian attitudes are what have fed gig economy, lack of social investment and increased privitisation of infrastructure.

As to places with no welfare system at all, I've been to a few. They are not nice places. At all.

It shouldn't be a race to the bottom.

But again, far too much apathy and ostrich syndrome about, so nothing will change.

I think this country is going downhill fast. And there is very little that can be done.
Unless there is a complete reform of EVERYTHING! That is NHS, Wages, Benefits, Laws and so on.
To the poster who things Labour is the answer, they are not. They don't have a solid plan - they promise to put s lot of money towards things that they believe makes them popular... the problem is, where is it coming from?
The rich? - They know how to hide it.
The poor? - They have nothing.
That leaves the working and middle class. They don't earn enough to support these grand plans. If they get taxed to high they in turn end up poor.

Maybe once the mayhem is over, Brexit is the answer after all.

I'm not a socialist but absolutely agree that nationalisation of essential services was a big mistake. People need heat. So don't nationalise the gas or electricity industry. They need water too. I agree with a welfare system for vulnerable people or people who have fallen on hard times. But not for people who can't work because they live rurally or because there's no jobs from 10-2 in the next street. It's a huge insult to people who struggle with employment and travel costs and childcare and so on.

The working class have spent their (our) lives fighting. We’ve fought for everything. The army is mostly made up of working class men and women. We’re everywhere.

They don't have a solid plan - they promise to put s lot of money towards things that they believe makes them popular... the problem is, where is it coming from?

Remind me again how much the Tories found for the DUP coalition deal? Not to mention the eye-watering costs for Brexit. If we were truly skint, neither would have been afforded.

This thread is really sobering. I really hope there is some kind of revolution although I'm not holding my breath. How telling that all four members of Theresa May's Social Mobility Commission have resigned overnight.

The poor keep getting poorer and I agree that we have become completely immobilised by the government to the point that we are too afraid to fight back.

I'm the only member of my family who rents from a LL and receives an in-work benefit. It's really hard for them to understand how stressful it can be just knowing that my home isn't my own and can be taken away at any time. They also have this Victorian belief of the 'deserving poor' and that most people just aren't trying hard enough. My family are all working class but of course believe everything they read in the Tory media. I've stood on my soapbox long enough and am now wondering if it's doing any good at all.

Did anyone watch the BBC documentary on 'The Super Rich and Us?'. It was really good on this issue.

The Tory scum want to kill off all the weak in society and reward the greedy. That's it in a nutshell

Treacle - would you be prepared to take up arms for the revolution?

I don't think so Dapplegrey I would certainly be prepared to fight with all I have in me for a fairer society but I have a problem with taking up arms as have experience of the Troubles. I would never want to go back to that. It's hard to see what realistically could be done. I have joined political parties and campaigned but nothing is changing.

How telling that all four members of Theresa May's Social Mobility Commission have resigned overnight.

Because theres no way to be socially mobile in a society where you're never given the chance to step up the next rung of the ladder.

DS goes to school OOC, because he has SNs, DD goes to school OOC because she got moved to an OOC primary school after horrendous bullying. The OOC primary is a feeder school to the OOC SS.

The school they were in previously made no bones about being in a deprived area, the several other schools we also tried to get them into didn't have the spaces for the DCs or were faith schools and basically, it'd take being related to the RF to get a look-in. Both my DCs are there perfectly legitimately, but just by being there they have an opportunity of getting a better education, and in turn a good job. The house prices for the surrounding areas of the school mean it's not even an option for most people. They're astronomical.

There is literally zero opportunity, or very little if you're lucky for the youths of the community around DCs old school. They've taken to residing on the church steps because the local youth centre had been closed down & there's no longer enough staff to help run it. Funding cuts you see.

I hope they fucking throw up on them!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/universal-credit-terminally-ill_uk_5a21c76be4b03c44072d976c?06o&amp%3Butm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

That's disgraceful Helena, sadly, I'm not surprised. This govt seems to think illness and death even, is a state of mind

I think Eryri1981 post is absolutely spot on.

I'm a little bit shocked at the amount of people on this thread calling for a revolution though. While a Czech style velvet revolution would be a good thing I really don't fancy the idea of an actual violent revolution fought with guns supplied by other countries (Russia). It would end up in a Syrian style revolution. The only good side to that is we would never have to worry about Islamic terrorists ever again,

So does my new housing officer Love.

food poverty and homelessness keep growing in the UK

And they will continue to do so as long as people continue to vote Tory.

Torys=homelessness.

It's not hard.

You can dress it up any way you like, but it's what happens.

I asked 2 elections ago on MN if people should feel personally responsible for homeless people if they voted Tory. The general consensus was not, because they didn't know the Tory policies led to homelessness (although funny how many of us did know that).

Well, now we all know it, I think it's safe to say if you vote Tory again, you should feel fuckign ashamed when you see homeless people on the street as you have had a part to play in it by putting these callous fuckers in power.

That link about terminal illness is a dystopian nightmare.

How are we here, as a society??

What the fuck? People who are dying having to jump through hoops with work coaches to get a few pounds? What the fuck???

Being 'motivated' and 'challenged' by a work coach, or being harrassed about being able to walk 50 yards in 'an emergency' - how is cruelty like this necessary to claim your legal entitlement to social security payments if you are fucking dying???

It's absolute madness that the government can throw around figures like €50 billion for Brexit (which will send us racing to the bottom) but cannot ensure disabled people and those who are needy get a measly few quid to live on.

I've known people very dependent on the NHS (as am I) who voted Tory too. That addles my brain, I cannot understand it.

Tories=homelessness.

Spelling correction, but also worth saying it again.

If you give any kind of a shit about people, stop voting for them. They want to sell our country off to Trump and co - except the won't be around much longer, they're currently being exposed for the criminals they are.

Even May's own party know she doesn't really give a fuck about the volunerable in our society. Her own Social Mobility Tsar just resigned - along with his colleagues - in protest.

Tories=homelessness

Homeless man found ‘frozen to death’ on coldest night of the year

The news emerged the day after Shelter revealed that more than 250,000 people are sleeping rough on Britain’s streets

One in every 25 people in Westminster are living in temporary accommodation or on the streets, making it the leading place for homelessness

In fact, 34 out of 50 of the places topping the chart are in London, with Newham in second place, Haringey in third and Kensington and Chelsea in fourth

metro.co.uk/2016/12/02/homeless-man-found-frozen-to-death-on-coldest-night-of-the-year-6296691/

Price of houses. It all comes back to that. The biggest housing boom in history is literally starving people

I disagree. It’s the shortage of social housing.

For some reason, it’s seen as a bad thing to rent and to rent at affordable levels i.e. social homes

It is a pretty solid business model to build and rent out homes at low cost. Rents don’t need to be sky high except they are because they’re covering people’s mortgages. People are using rental income as an alternative to a pension. Because pensions are shit. Because their employers have taken them away as they’ve driven down benefits.

All the while the rich get incredibly richer.

Our economic model is broken. It stared with thatcher, carried on with Blair and got more extreme with David Cameron and Theresa May.

It doesn’t work.

If trickle down policies worked, then the poor would be drowning in cash.

Which they are not.

Tories should be ashamed of themselves
Homeless man freezing to death in this Country is absolutely terrible, how is this allowed to happen